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Old 11-20-2009
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McCain facing a tough primary run ?

so sayeth Rasmussin

Mac 45 other guy 43
that hurts, other guy isnt even running !

more evidence that the pendulum is swinging right


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Hayworth, a conservative former U.S. congressman who now is a popular radio talk show host in Phoenix, is reportedly interested in the race but has not formally declared for it. He captures 59% of the male GOP vote, while McCain wins 58% of female voters.

Younger GOP voters like Hayworth more than their elders. McCain has a solid lead among the relatively small number of moderate and liberal Republicans in the state while Hayworth picks up a plurality (48%) of conservatives.
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Old 11-20-2009
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Re: McCain facing a tough primary run ?

Well that's a good way for the Republicans to lose their seat.

The internal GOP pendulum might be swinging right, but that's not gonna win them any elections.
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Old 11-20-2009
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Re: McCain facing a tough primary run ?

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Well that's a good way for the Republicans to lose their seat.

The internal GOP pendulum might be swinging right, but that's not gonna win them any elections.

you seem to like to ignore the migration of the "independants" from left to right.
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Re: McCain facing a tough primary run ?

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you seem to like to ignore the migration of the "independants" from left to right.
If independents are migrating right, it will be to the center-left of the Republican party, not to the hard right wing.
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Old 11-20-2009
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Re: McCain facing a tough primary run ?

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you seem to like to ignore the migration of the "independants" from left to right.
Independents tend to be more moderate, though, not conservative or liberal. I think you're mistaking Independents' support of Republicans for support of conservatism.
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Re: McCain facing a tough primary run ?

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If independents are migrating right, it will be to the center-left of the Republican party, not to the hard right wing.

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Independents tend to be more moderate, though, not conservative or liberal. I think you're mistaking Independents' support of Republicans for support of conservatism.

they tend to vote their pocketbook and thats why they are heading right
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Re: McCain facing a tough primary run ?

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Well that's a good way for the Republicans to lose their seat.

The internal GOP pendulum might be swinging right, but that's not gonna win them any elections.
You honestly think there is a chance of that happening in AZ?
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Re: McCain facing a tough primary run ?

Personally, I've never really been able to move past McCain's role in the assault on the First Amendment they passed as "Campaign Finance Reform".

Fortunately, many of the blatantly Unconstitutional provisions have been struck down, but IMHO it should never have been passed in the first place.

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Re: McCain facing a tough primary run ?

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You honestly think there is a chance of that happening in AZ?

I could not find polling for McC v DEM
is there one runing ?
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Old 11-20-2009
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Re: McCain facing a tough primary run ?

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Personally, I've never really been able to move past McCain's role in the assault on the First Amendment they passed as "Campaign Finance Reform".

Fortunately, many of the blatantly Unconstitutional provisions have been struck down, but IMHO it should never have been passed in the first place.

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Noone has found an easy way to make politics less about bribery and more about representing the people.

Although the legislation was flawed, at least McCain Feingold made a good ATTEMPT at reforming the legalized bribery that is politics today.

How would you reform campaign bribery...um finance, or would you just leave it alone?

If I were in AZ, I'd probably vote for McCain. My main problem with him was his falling in-line with bush for everything in the past 8 years, and his selection of Palin. Neither of those would impact his role as a senator.
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Old 11-20-2009
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Re: McCain facing a tough primary run ?

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I could not find polling for McC v DEM
is there one runing ?

I don't think anyone's formally announced that they're running for McCain's seat yet.

There's a Gubernatorial race at the same time.....the big players involved may go for that instead.

But the whole thing is highly speculative at this point. I'd wait for the horses to be named before placing any wager.

The only thing we know is that AZ is a red state, so any Dem sporting a real challenge would be a surprise. I would expect a Republican seat to be retained. Since the Rep. opposition votes as a block, it doesn't really matter who fills it while Obama is president.
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Re: McCain facing a tough primary run ?

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The only thing we know is that AZ is a red state, so any Dem sporting a real challenge would be a surprise. I would expect a Republican seat to be retained. Since the Rep. opposition votes as a block, it doesn't really matter who fills it while Obama is president.
MT is a red state and has a Democratic governor, 2 democratic senators, and 1 republican house member.

Its completely feasible for a non-republican to win in a red state, but you've got to have a stance that favors small business, fiscal responsibility, farmers, etc.
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Re: McCain facing a tough primary run ?

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MT is a red state and has a Democratic governor, 2 democratic senators, and 1 republican house member.

Its completely feasible for a non-republican to win in a red state, but you've got to have a stance that favors small business, fiscal responsibility, farmers, etc.
Damn good point. I think it would be political suicide for the Reps to dethrone McCain. A lot of folks that didn't vote for him respect him. Could we see the begining of the McCain/Lieberman Party. Has a much higher probabilty than monkeys flying out of someone's butt, It could happen.
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Re: McCain facing a tough primary run ?

Can't say I'd miss him.
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Old 11-21-2009
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Can't say I'd miss him.
Yet just last year he was the Salvation of the Country. Yep, old fashioned Republican loyalty, beautiful thing.
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