Thread: So, how come Romney is allowed to commit voter fraud?

Originally Posted by Commodore

The entire post prop 8 witch hunt was nothing more than a vengeful shakedown intended to intimidate the nearest scapegoat they could find. Apparently you can only community organize if your a member of a protected minority. Now thats a real violation of 14th amendment rights.

Again you fail to explain how expecting people to actually follow the laws in regards to such advocacy is bigotry or a "witch hunt."

Originally Posted by MattInFla

Still waiting to see some evidence of voter fraud beyond the OP's conclusion.

The city clerk advises that he is on the roles as a resident. He maintains a residence in that jurisdiction.

There is no requirement about how much time one spends in their legal residence, only that they have a single legal residence.

If I hit the lottery tomorrow and decide to spend all of 2012 touring the world, am I no longer a legal resident of Florida? Of course not.

So, where's the actual evidence of voter fraud?

There must be! He is a Mormon!

Originally Posted by Unique POV

Again you fail to explain how expecting people to actually follow the laws in regards to such advocacy is bigotry or a "witch hunt."

Do people not have a right to voice their opinion on public issues?

Still awaiting some actual evidence.

I'm guessing it will be a while......

Originally Posted by Unique POV

Again you fail to explain how expecting people to actually follow the laws in regards to such advocacy is bigotry or a "witch hunt."

Publishing names of supporters of Prop 8 and locating them on a website's map is "following the laws?"

that was targeting.

Pure and simple: Any statement to the contrary is only an attempt to rationalize reprobate behavior for which there is no rationalization.

Originally Posted by Commodore

Do people not have a right to voice their opinion on public issues?

Of course they do... but when it comes to actual political advocacy, there are laws and regulations to be followed. The pro-gay marriage advocates had to follow the exact same laws and regulations. So tell me again how expecting people to follow the laws is bigotry?

Originally Posted by Good1

Publishing names of supporters of Prop 8 and locating them on a website's map is "following the laws?"

that was targeting.

Pure and simple: Any statement to the contrary is only an attempt to rationalize reprobate behavior for which there is no rationalization.

Which of course is only an issue now that that position has become unpopular. Pro-gay rights people faced the same issues 30-40 years ago. When their names were found on advocacy lists, they risked loss of jobs or worse. Where was the outrage then? Are you saying we shouldn't follow laws we don't like?

Originally Posted by Unique POV

Which of course is only an issue now that that position has become unpopular. Pro-gay rights people faced the same issues 30-40 years ago. When their names were found on advocacy lists, they risked loss of jobs or worse. Where was the outrage then? Are you saying we shouldn't follow laws we don't like?

Yeah, yeah, yeah ... so your refutation of the point is "...well you did it so we can do it?"

Remember the point you were trying to drive was that those above-board and decent protestors were only trying to get the reprobate prop 8'ers to follow the law and respect others.

Are you still willing to stand behind your weak sauce of "you did it so...?"

IF it happened to "you" and it was wrong ... THEN "you" doing it to someone else is also wrong.

Originally Posted by Unique POV

Of course they do... but when it comes to actual political advocacy, there are laws and regulations to be followed. The pro-gay marriage advocates had to follow the exact same laws and regulations. So tell me again how expecting people to follow the laws is bigotry?

Yeah, you should be real proud of catching someone for making flyers at kinkos on their own dime, and on their own time.

If you stopped and thought about someone other than yourself, you'd realize that's a disastrous road to start down.

Originally Posted by Good1

Yeah, yeah, yeah ... so your refutation of the point is "...well you did it so we can do it?"

Remember the point you were trying to drive was that those above-board and decent protestors were only trying to get the reprobate prop 8'ers to follow the law and respect others.

Are you still willing to stand behind your weak sauce of "you did it so...?"

IF it happened to "you" and it was wrong ... THEN "you" doing it to someone else is also wrong.

No... my refutation is that the law is the same for both sides. One side followed it; one side did not and got fined for it. If you don't like the law, attempt to have it changed.

Originally Posted by Commodore

Yeah, you should be real proud of catching someone for making flyers at kinkos on their own dime, and on their own time.

If you stopped and thought about someone other than yourself, you'd realize that's a disastrous road to start down.

I didn't catch anyone doing anything. There are laws regarding political advocacy. They are in place for a reason. Often political advocacy groups are merely fronts for businesses or other entities who stand to make financial gains from changes in the law. These "sunshine" type laws are designed to bring those facts to light. That they affect advocacy for social laws as well as laws that affect finance is something you may want to address with your congressman. However the fact remains that for the time being these laws are in place and they are the same for both sides. I fail to see how it is unreasonable (or bigotry) to expect both sides to follow them.