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Reply With QuoteYou know full well the ACORN fraud thats been commited.
Originally Posted by Dick Martin
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Vice President
Do these Republicans ever stop? They are passing laws to stop voter fraud, they say, and they are the only ones being fraudulent. Shheeessshhh...
" ... on Election Day as Ehrlich slipped in unofficial exit polls, and a hastily recorded robocall was sent to more than 112,000 voters in Prince George's County and Baltimore.
The call told voters to "relax" because O'Malley had already won. "The only thing left is to watch it on TV tonight," the caller said. In fact, polling places were still open. ..."
Ehrlich robocalls: Indictments could give Democrats ammunition for campaign season - baltimoresun.com
The high moral grounders seem to have a lot of trouble staying on the moral high ground.
"There is no gain in arguing with a poo flinging monkey. While his
gibbering and raucous cries of victory may seem obnoxious in your ears
as you walk away, he will soon be quietly sitting behind his bars again
and licking his own feces off his fingers as you carry on with your day."
City Council Member
You know full well the ACORN fraud thats been commited.
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The will of the people is the only legitimate foundation of any government, and to protect its free expression should be our first object.
Thomas Jefferson
Secretary of Defense
When did Acorn become part of the GOP?
Vice President
Actually, no. I don't know of any ACORN fraud that was committed. Do you?
Yes, there was a lot of shrill whining about it, but it never actually happened.
Unless you have a reliable link to actual arrests and actual voting that was fraudulent?
"There is no gain in arguing with a poo flinging monkey. While his
gibbering and raucous cries of victory may seem obnoxious in your ears
as you walk away, he will soon be quietly sitting behind his bars again
and licking his own feces off his fingers as you carry on with your day."
Moderator
Stick your fingers in your ears and scream so that you can't hear it:
Pa. Voter ID: Pa. Voter ID HB 934 - mcall.com
Right here in river city...For starters, in May 2009, a six-month FBI investigation led to forgery and election fraud charges against seven Pittsburgh area ACORN employees. In October 2008, Philadelphia's deputy city commissioner submitted approximately 8,000 fraudulent ACORN-collected voter registration forms for investigation.
Also in October 2008, another ACORN canvasser was arrested in York County for, according to new reports, submitting more than 100 fraudulent voter registrations "on at least 19 applications he randomly picked names out of the phone book and registered them."
Massive or diminutive, every illegally counted vote cancels out the vote of legitimate voters and thereby further disenfranchises future participation, because of serious questions regarding whether our individual right to vote actually matters.
Expert testimony presented to the House State Government Committee earlier this spring confirmed that requiring valid photo ID at the polls, as provided for by H.B. 934, can prevent the four most widely documented types of voter fraud: impersonation at the polls, fictitious registrations, double voting, and voting by illegal aliens.
These conclusions coincide with the bipartisan findings of the 2005 Commission on Federal Elections headed by President Jimmy Carter and Secretary of State James Baker: "The electoral system cannot inspire public confidence if no safeguards exist to deter fraud or to conform the identity of voters. Photo IDs currently are needed to board a plane, enter federal buildings, and cash a check. Voting is equally important."
As the U.S. Supreme Court also recognized, when it upheld the constitutionality of Indiana's voter identification law, flagrant examples of voter fraud "documented throughout the nation's history … demonstrate that not only is the risk of voter fraud real, but that it could affect the outcome of a close election."
Acorn voter registration recruiter indicted on voter fraud charges | ksdk.com
Want more? Of course you don't...An East St. Louis woman who worked for Acorn submitted false information on voter registration cards according to a federal indictment.
Deidra Humphrey is charged with submitting the forged cards in connection with the November 2008 general election. U.S. Attorney Catherine Hanaway alleges that Humphrey would forge cards for residents at nursing homes without their knowledge.
According to the indictment, between June and August 2008, Humphrey worked as a voter registration recruiter for ACORN and then MPVC, obtaining voter registrations. In some cases, Humphrey submitted false and forged voter registration cards to the Boards of Election in St. Louis County and the City of St. Louis.
The Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now (ACORN) and the Missouri Progressive Vote Coalition (MPVC) are non-profit organizations that conducted voter registration drives for the November 4, 2008 general election. Acorn publicly endorsed Barack Obama as its choice for president early last year.
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ACORN Workers Indicted For Alleged Voter Fraud - Politics News Story - KMBC Kansas City
Here's a whole site dedicated to it:
Fraud Map :: Rotten Acorn ::
Vice President
Those were not voter fraud cases. The report says that, but thats not what they were. I have no desire to walk you through those stories, but if you look at the stories, they all have to to with voter registration, not with polling place fraud. ACORN committed no fraud at any poll anywhere.
Yes, I agree, There were shrill cries from the right and huge efforts to suppress the vote, but no, there were no polling place frauds having anything to do with ACORN. That was all just shrieking.
"There is no gain in arguing with a poo flinging monkey. While his
gibbering and raucous cries of victory may seem obnoxious in your ears
as you walk away, he will soon be quietly sitting behind his bars again
and licking his own feces off his fingers as you carry on with your day."
Moderator
Right... keeps telling yourself that Dick
Florida Case Puts Focus on Issue of Absentee Ballot Fraud - FoxNews.com
Maybe you missed this one?
Garland County Election Controversy: Voters Turned Away - ArkansasMatters.com
YouTube - ‪Voter Fraud in Arkansas?‬‏
University of Arkansas Press Publishes Waiting for the Cemetery Vote | Arkansas Newswire | University of Arkansas
Alderman faces 2 voter-fraud counts
Vice President
??? Did you look at your links? Not one of them mentions ACORN.
- Nothing to do with Acorn. No party affiliation was mentioned.
- Not fraud at all, just a guy making a mistake. (Actually, I happen to be familiar with this case, and it also appears to be an attempt to suppress the vote by restricting polling places by Republicans.)
- Republican fraud.
- s history book, and
- the last can't be reached.
You make my case for me. The shrill cries of voter fraud are not based on fact, but are just made up to suppress the vote.
"There is no gain in arguing with a poo flinging monkey. While his
gibbering and raucous cries of victory may seem obnoxious in your ears
as you walk away, he will soon be quietly sitting behind his bars again
and licking his own feces off his fingers as you carry on with your day."
City Council Member
Poor Dick...this is what happens when one attempts to make up one's own definitions.
Electoral fraud refers to is illegal interference with the process of an election. The definition of the term varies from country to country. Generally it includes illegal voter registrationintimidation at polls and improper vote counting. Even though technically the term 'electoral fraud' covers only illegal acts, the term is also used to describe acts morally unacceptable, outside the spirit of electoral laws or in violation of the principles of democracy.
Electoral fraud is also termed voter fraud.
Electoral Fraud Law & Legal Definition
The will of the people is the only legitimate foundation of any government, and to protect its free expression should be our first object.
Thomas Jefferson
Vice President
What tsquare and his links neglect to point out is that ACORN itself reported most (all) of its workers because it suspected the phony registrations. In other words, those busts happened because ACORN reported the incidents.
The BRAD BLOG : SPECIAL COVERAGE: The GOP's ACORN 'Voter Fraud' Hoax
Liberals fail to recognize that modern conservatives are direct evidence of the failure of the public education system.
Moderator
It's a hoax when people are tried, convicted and sent to prison.
Got it...
Vice President
Its a hoax when the GOP condemns ACORN for the actions of a few bad apples when the GOP had similar problems with fraudulent voter registrations:
California GOP had Same Voter Registration Problems as ACORN in 2006 | News & Politics | AlterNet
But unlike the California GOP in its 2006 voter drive, ACORN has a policy of telling local election officials when it believes it has fraudulent registrations. It is required by states to submit all voter applications and urges election officials to prosecute knowing mistakes. The current case against ACORN comes from its own disclosures.
Liberals fail to recognize that modern conservatives are direct evidence of the failure of the public education system.
2011 USPOL Most Valuable Poster (MVP)
ahoy Dick Martin,
Tsquare hath a great deal 'o passion, me friend...but no, he does not look at his links. as i've mentioned in numerous posts, if ye wish to rebutt that swabby's posts, all ye have to usually do be to look at the material he linked.
- MeadHallPirate
Vice President
I believe words have meanings, and when we stop using those meanings with words, our language becomes ambiguous.
But so what; please show where ACORN committed fraud of any kind.
I will accept that some of their members acted inappropriately but is was random and it was rare. There was no widespread pattern of inappropriate behavior by ACORN, there was no fraud by ACORN, and very few actual cases of fraud by any person(s).
The point was, and remains, that the shrill shrieks from the right were all about voter suppression and were shrill cries with little or no facts.
I understand that those who want to believe ACORN was some bad boogie man will continue to believe it, but the facts just do not back up the hysteria.
"There is no gain in arguing with a poo flinging monkey. While his
gibbering and raucous cries of victory may seem obnoxious in your ears
as you walk away, he will soon be quietly sitting behind his bars again
and licking his own feces off his fingers as you carry on with your day."
City Council Member
You CHOOSE to disregard what words mean and make up your own definitions....with all due respect that doesn't work for anyone who actually thinks.
I am betting you have NO issue with the Black Panthers outside the Philly Polling place with night sticks.
You don't get to "make" up your own definitions....the Left routinely is involved in Voter Fraud.....as defined by my Post.
Folks like yourself give Dems a bad name.
The will of the people is the only legitimate foundation of any government, and to protect its free expression should be our first object.
Thomas Jefferson
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