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    Police Steal Woman's Tip

    Struggling Minnesota Waitress Sues After Police Seize $12,000 Tip - ABC News

    I really don't know what to say. Police all over this country are becoming increasingly corrupt.

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    Re: Police Steal Woman's Tip

    The sad part is that by the time she's done the state won't have the money, the dealers won't have the money and she won't have the money but some lawyer will.

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    Police argue that the money had a strong odor of marijuana and therefore falls under a law that allows for forfeiture of the money because it was in the proximity of a controlled substance, the lawsuit states. But there were no drugs in the box and Richie said he believes this law is not being used correctly.
    When you do a search you find that 90% of US currency that has been in circulation for more than 20 months has Cocaine and other drug residue.


    The Forfeiture seizure laws which are bullshit anyways can be used to grab any amount of money Police anywhere want to confiscate.

    The bullshit part of the laws is that they never charge a person with a crime. Technically they charge the item/cash etc and then it is burden of proof on the person who they took it from.
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    Re: Police Steal Woman's Tip

    Why did she call the police?
    If it was really a tip, she wouldn't have to involve the police.
    She screwed herself here, because by involving the police she changed it from "a tip she received" to "unclaimed money she found".
    The incentive to the police is that they get to keep the money and it goes into the department budget.
    Drug dealers know that if they get caught, and they arrange for "drug money" to be found, they get a much lighter sentence, than if only drugs and no money is found.
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    Re: Police Steal Woman's Tip

    Quote Originally Posted by AjaxPress View Post
    Police all over this country are becoming increasingly corrupt.
    Maybe. Maybe not. Either way there doesn't seem to be much evidence supporting that thesis here.

    From another article:

    Moorhead police Lt. Tory Jacobson said when money is usually found and turned over to police, the finder can keep it if no one claims it in 90 days. But in a narcotics case, the money goes to the county attorney's office unless the finder persuades a judge to award the cash to them, he said.

    "That doesn't mean she can't raise the issue with the judge," Jacobson said of Knutson. "It's just not the police department's decision to make."

    Minnesota Waitress Stacy Knutson Left $12,000 Tip?
    The woman turns the money over to the police, a drug dog hits on it, the circumstances by which she came into the money are arguably pretty darn suspect.

    So the police turn it over to the county attorney's office as per their SOP.

    It kinda sucks, but it doesn't even hint at corruption.

    Corruption would be if the cop she turned the money over to stuck it in his pocket and then claimed it disapeared.

    Anyhow, this whole thing got me thinking, "What if the bills were marked but the police don't want to say anything because they've got more marked bills out there and they don't want to tip their hand?"

    Who knows.

    Bottom line is that the woman actually did the right thing, the cops actually did the right thing, and the woman can continue to do the right thing by pursuing legal action (which she seems to be doing).

    As vocal as I am in my general distaste for poor people I really hope this woman wins in the end because she did the right thing up front (and not allowing her the money if it isn't actually being considered real evidence in a real criminal case would be fooking geigh).
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    Re: Police Steal Woman's Tip

    Quote Originally Posted by soot View Post
    Maybe. Maybe not. Either way there doesn't seem to be much evidence supporting that thesis here.

    From another article:



    The woman turns the money over to the police, a drug dog hits on it, the circumstances by which she came into the money are arguably pretty darn suspect.

    So the police turn it over to the county attorney's office as per their SOP.

    It kinda sucks, but it doesn't even hint at corruption.

    Corruption would be if the cop she turned the money over to stuck it in his pocket and then claimed it disapeared.

    Anyhow, this whole thing got me thinking, "What if the bills were marked but the police don't want to say anything because they've got more marked bills out there and they don't want to tip their hand?"

    Who knows.

    Bottom line is that the woman actually did the right thing, the cops actually did the right thing, and the woman can continue to do the right thing by pursuing legal action (which she seems to be doing).

    As vocal as I am in my general distaste for poor people I really hope this woman wins in the end because she did the right thing up front (and not allowing her the money if it isn't actually being considered real evidence in a real criminal case would be fooking geigh).
    What narcotics case? So somone who handled the money was also handling drugs. Big deal. If stoners go to a Jack In The Box does that mean that the police have the right to all the money in the cash registers, since inevitably the money is all going to smell like weed? It's pretty clear what's really going on here.

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    Re: Police Steal Woman's Tip

    Quote Originally Posted by goober View Post
    Why did she call the police?
    If it was really a tip, she wouldn't have to involve the police.
    She screwed herself here, because by involving the police she changed it from "a tip she received" to "unclaimed money she found".
    The incentive to the police is that they get to keep the money and it goes into the department budget.
    Drug dealers know that if they get caught, and they arrange for "drug money" to be found, they get a much lighter sentence, than if only drugs and no money is found.
    I'd be afraid to spend it, as it may have been obtained by robbery and the serial numbers are hot.

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    Re: Police Steal Woman's Tip

    Quote Originally Posted by AjaxPress View Post
    It's pretty clear what's really going on here.
    Agreed.

    What's happening here is that you're jumping to conclusions without having all the facts because this article feeds into your prejudices.

    And for what it's worth, in your example, if the manager of the local Jack In The Box had taken a bag full of money down to the local police station, explained that someone had just come in the store and paid for a single cheeseburger with $12,000 cash in mixed bills and told the manager to keep the change, and then the police had detected some sort of drug residue on the money, it might actually make a little sense.

    As is, it's just dumb.

    You're comparing apples and oranges.

    Actually, you know what, you're not even comparing apples and oranges because in such an example there is at least some association between the items compared.

    You're comparing apples and fucking Chupacabras.

    Nonsense.
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