Thread: Christie Ought to Resign

Originally Posted by MattInFla

I remember how furious Jason was when Biden told a reporter "don't screw with me", and the demands for Biden's resignation....

False equivalency, Matt.

Do you even know why Biden said that?

He was asked, "If the President's jobs bill doesn't go through, will the country see more rapes?".

To which Biden replied, "Don't screw around with me", in a firm but calm tone.

Nice try.

Chris Christie's behavior is disturbing.

Show me Biden shouting like a fucking idiot, indeed, show me any elected rep shouting like a belligerent drunken ass hole, and my call for their resignation will be the same.

Total false equivalency on your part, Matt. Nice try at a deflection from a Governor who has totally disrespected public office.

Originally Posted by fishjoel

Honestly....it's really all about what your preference is. I don't think it's necessarily wrong for him to respond the way he did. Anyone who's lived a few years knows that sometimes the heavy handed type of person is the person that can get things done. It's not particularly my style of leadership but I don't think it's an ineffective method of leadership.

No, it has nothing to do with preference, and everything to do with behavior that is seriously disturbing.

In a position of leadership, you're going to take your lumps from people who disagree with you, and it's your job to rise above that.

It would have been way more powerful of him to have the heckler come over and actually talk with him, but instead Christie has decided that he's some kind of Emperor who gets to shout obscenities at anyone who disagrees with him or doesn't play by his own petty little rules.

When it comes time for reporters to ask questions, if you decide that the question is inappropriate for that occasion, you say, "Excuse me, but this event today is about whatever whatever whatever and that's where I'd like to keep the focus, do you have a question about that? If not, I'm going to have to move on to someone who does". But no, instead of being diplomatic, Christie called the guy stupid and an idiot, and in the process, making his own self look like a boorish fucking amateur.

The job is seriously not agreeing with him. You can't just go ape shit on anyone who says something you disagree with.

But, but, but, Biden told that one guy not to screw around with him.....oh yeah? Watch that video, it's nothing like Christie's totally uncalled for behavior, which smacks of schoolyard bully, just like Cheney telling that Senator to fuck off.

I applaud the right for having stronger leaders than the left, but I place scorn on them for being bullies and shame on the left for taking it instead of dishing it back. Isn't there a fucking loudmouth in NJ capable enough to take on that ass hole or is everyone on the left a pussy?

Originally Posted by Jason Marcel

False equivalency, Matt.

Do you even know why Biden said that?

He was asked, "If the President's jobs bill doesn't go through, will the country see more rapes?".

To which Biden replied, "Don't screw around with me", in a firm but calm tone.

Nice try.

Chris Christie's behavior is disturbing.

Show me Biden shouting like a fucking idiot, indeed, show me any elected rep shouting like a belligerent drunken ass hole, and my call for their resignation will be the same.

Total false equivalency on your part, Matt. Nice try at a deflection from a Governor who has totally disrespected public office.

The difference being that Christie is a Republican, so you're "outraged", but Biden is a Democrat, so you defend him.

Personally, I think neither acted in a manner befitting their position.

I was simply pointing out yet another example of your partisanship.

Originally Posted by adaher

It certainly helps to be likeable, but Nixon was a pretty unlikeable troll and he won two terms. Of course, he lost to Kennedy. Nixon was lucky to have two equally unlikeable guys as opponents. if Christie goes up against say, Howard Dean, likeability won't be a factor.

The most likeable presidents in my lifetime, Jimmy Carter and The Obama, have been the biggest disasters. I measure a man by the enemies that he makes.

Originally Posted by MeadHallPirate

ahoy Jasper,

i don't think i've asked Governor Christie to resign.

And nowehere have I suggested you did.

Silly me, and here I am thinking that responding to the OP was appropriate.

The OP is calling for his resignation.

nor have i said he be not presidential.

Please see the above.

he hasn't a chance to be POTUS...

Something pointed out by... Me.

americans, by 'n large, don't like angry loudmouths as thar Commander 'n Chief.

You might ask yourself, then, why it's a Canadian making an issue of it here.

think Reagan. think Clinton. not this o'erweight thug.

What does his weight have to do with anything? That's where your entire argument becomes dismissable. You make his weight an issue as opposed to the actual issue.

Do you think Christie should've just stood there and let the heckler continue? Should he not have responded at all?

The guy got a bit heated and said some stuff. It would only be a real scandal (or really funny) if he had punched him.

No reason for Christie to resign. I may not agree with everything the man has to say but at the same time him staying where he is upsets all the right people.

Originally Posted by PeterUK75

The guy got a bit heated and said some stuff. It would only be a real scandal (or really funny) if he had punched him.

Funny video. Prescott was physically assaulted and had every right to punch the guy. But he got pwned by the guy he punched.

Is this kind of like Obama talking to a blogger like a child for asking a question???????Should Obama resign as well?

Originally Posted by Damn Yankee

The most likeable presidents in my lifetime, Jimmy Carter and The Obama, have been the biggest disasters. I measure a man by the enemies that he makes.

ahoy Damn Yankee,

i think yer tryin' to twist the facts to fit yer own narrative.

the idear that Americans would say that President Carter or President Obama have been the most "likable" presidents in the last half century be absurd. 'tis goofy. yer not only out 'o touch with mainstream america, yer a singular aberration here on USPO also.

not a single poster would agree with that assessment.

- MeadHallPirate

ahoy Jasper,

Originally Posted by Jasper

And nowehere have I suggested you did.

Silly me, and here I am thinking that responding to the OP was appropriate.

The OP is calling for his resignation.



Please see the above.

yer absolutely correct, matey. i apologize, too.

Something pointed out by... Me.

ayup, agreed. we both see eye to eye on this matter.

You might ask yourself, then, why it's a Canadian making an issue of it here.

sure thing, me bucko. you might also ask yerself, though, why ye want to be on a forum peopled exclusively by americans? ye might even dwell further on the topic and consider that the dialogue here on the good ship USPO be elevated by differin' points 'o view.

ye might eventually conclude that since the introduction 'o certain technological advances that mankind hath achieved (you know, things like the telephone...the jet engine...the internet) that our fates all be bound more closely to one another, and that it enriches USPO to have passionate perspectives offered on our deeds from beyond our borders.

What does his weight have to do with anything? That's where your entire argument becomes dismissable. You make his weight an issue as opposed to the actual issue.

hey, he's a fat buckaroo - thats not me opinion, that be a fact. now, i hate to admit this, but i usually consider fatness to be a sign 'o personal sloth. no one looks at thar reflection in the mirror and says, "its awesome that me gut hangs so low that i can't see me groin...and i love the fact that i have breasts that be a B cup, even though i be a male. this be just a mighty thing that i be gleeful o'er!".

it shows a degree 'o mental weakness and lack 'o discipline. now, does this make MeadHallPirate a shallow pirate? maybe...i dunno. probably. thats just the cut 'o me jib, me hearty.

don't ye find it refreshin' that i at least admit, right up front, that imma bothered by this blowhard's girth?

*ponders*

'tis probably just the optics 'o it. if he was a nice fat man, i'd probably be less concerned 'bout his body mass. the fact that he's a loud, crass blowhard (who much to shock 'o conservatives, is in some kinda swoon o'er Mitt Romney) makes his fat an onerous thing to me.

Do you think Christie should've just stood there and let the heckler continue? Should he not have responded at all?

i think he ought to have responded. thar be a number 'o ways to respond, 'o course. he coulda pulled a loaded pistol and just blasted his oppressor, fer example.

i just think the manner he chose to answer was inappropriate. nor is this kinda behavior new fer Governor Christie.

- MeadHallPirate

Originally Posted by MeadHallPirate

hey, he's a fat buckaroo - thats not me opinion, that be a fact. now, i hate to admit this, but i usually consider fatness to be a sign 'o personal sloth. no one looks at thar reflection in the mirror and says, "its awesome that me gut hangs so low that i can't see me groin...and i love the fact that i have breasts that be a B cup, even though i be a male. this be just a mighty thing that i be gleeful o'er!".

- MeadHallPirate

Come'on, MHP, who doesn't love a good B cup?

Originally Posted by Jason Marcel

Chris Christie Blows Up At Jersey Shore Heckler


Two new pieces of footage this week show NJ Gov. Chris Christie acting belligerently in public.

He called a reporter "stupid" and an "idiot" when the reporter decided that he would not be bound by Christie's made-up rule that you could only ask questions about the topic he wanted people to ask questions about.

The next one just came in recently and shows Christie shouting at a man who had been heckling him in public to "take care of the teachers".

"You're a big shot for shooting your mouth off!", yelled Christie.

Look at him in both of those clips. Hardly Presidential behavior, but less than that, it's not even civil behavior.

When Obama was rudely interrupted by a right-wing blogger a week or so ago he asked that next time the reporter should wait until he is finished giving his comments before asking questions. That's fair.

Christie, however, was flat out rude and belligerent on both counts.

He appears incapable of being able to handle the kind of pressure that is required of you when you hold elected office. The second clip is especially embarrassing. He doesn't appear like a Governor, but more like a drunk ass hole at the bar who is about to get into a fight with someone.

Imagine President Christie flying off the handle like that in a moment of national crisis. Imagine any elected leader flying off the handle like that in any situation!

If it's true that as a Republican he resents government, than it is definitely showing since it looks like his job is about to give him a heart attack. He doesn't appear to even like people very much, let alone people who disagree with him.

You're not an Emperor, Mr. Christie, but a democratically elected leader and it's your job to rise above some ninny who keeps saying, "take care of the teachers".

Gov. Christie ought to resign for cheapening the position of elected office for anyone interested in going into public service. His rudeness and belligerence just keeps getting worse and worse.

Christie ought to resign. What utter one sided BS!

There are plenty of Democrats who have said far worse and no one is calling for their resignations. Maxine Waters speaks more offensive BS nearly once a week, just as a single example.

Get some balance, would you?