Setting moderators on the Ignore- list

[MattLarson]

Originally Posted by muspell

Sure, and if a moderator does it within a few minutes, there is no "last edited by", either. I've seen that before. But, I assumed the deleted text and the deleted posts were still visible to the other mods. Even if the edits were done quickly after the post was submitted. Guess I was wrong, huh.

Well. This explains a few things, doesn't it.

Not really. Even though there is no "edited by" tag, if a moderator makes an edit a notation appears on the thread's moderation log.

It explains that you really don't know what you are talking about, but beyond that, it explains nothing.

Originally Posted by muspell

The first is O'Sullivan's, and the second is yours. heh. Funny.

I stand corrected - the second was mine - from almost a year ago. I had to go find it in the archives. I don't usually have the time to carry on some pathetic grudge about something that happened a year ago.

I stand by what was said there. You were issued a notice about violation of the forum rules - and extended the courtesy of not receiving points. Maybe you'd have the integrity to post the entire PM (including your extremely rude response to the warning)?

I'm bound by the forum rules not to disclose your PMs.

Matt

[muspell]

Post away. Be my guest.

[MattLarson]

Sorry, but I am not going to break the rules to amuse you.

If you've got the integrity to post that entire exchange, do so.

Matt

[muspell]

Oh, I'm not sure I have the PMs.. or the posts you deleted ahead of that, of course *shrug*. I guess I probably called you a bloody idiot and an imbecile (unless I deleted those words). Also, that I did not need to listen to your threats, and that you should take it up with another moderator if you wanted to sanction me, for what you said was a rule- violation (which obviously noone else saw, unlike what I believed).

And I never heard anything else, did I. Except a few of you graciously offering me to stay in return for "burying the hatchet", after reversing some of the several warning points I got in an entirely different thread. While never addressing those original "private" warnings.

But if you have those PMs, please post them. I *trust* you, Matt, not to make anything up, of course.

[MattLarson]

Sure - you don't have the PMs, which is how you were able to quote them.

Matt

[muspell]

Well, I only have my one answer to your warning, which reads "I don't have to listen to your threats, take it up with another moderator", which you replied to as I quoted "I don't have to take it up with anyone else", etc. I'm of course certain there are no other parts of that exchange - although I'm sure you see it as being connected to something else.

So please do me the courtesy of posting the "rest of the exchange", Matt.

[MattLarson]

My response to you included a quote of not only the original alert, but also your response.

Your recollection above is reasonably close. You were reminded of the forum rule, and you responded in a very rude, juvenile manner.

Matt

[drgoodtrips]

Originally Posted by muspell

Sure, and if a moderator does it within a few minutes, there is no "last edited by", either. I've seen that before. But, I assumed the deleted text and the deleted posts were still visible to the other mods. Even if the edits were done quickly after the post was submitted. Guess I was wrong, huh.

As far as I know, it only applies if you edit your own post. Anytime I've ever edited someone else's post, "edited" by has appeared, regardless of the time frame. Though, admittedly, I've never conducted any kind of specific experiment.

Well. This explains a few things, doesn't it.

I'm not sure what you're implying, but I don't doubt that you believe it does.

edit: ..right, of course.. - and what I was writing in #44 was that you could look at the few deleted threads (I assumed still were visible) for some examples of what sort of behaviour I was talking about.

Yes, I can look at deleted threads and posts - just not the previous text of edited posts. That's the nature of the software, vBulletin as it's installed on the server.

[muspell]

Originally Posted by drgoodtrips

As far as I know, it only applies if you edit your own post. Anytime I've ever edited someone else's post, "edited" by has appeared, regardless of the time frame. Though, admittedly, I've never conducted any kind of specific experiment.

Then do so. But yes, edits have been done without that showing up. It's been discussed on the forum before.

I'm not sure what you're implying, but I don't doubt that you believe it does.

I'm implying that there's a reason why some of us have their posts almost instantly edited, repeatedly, and then get these curious responses from the other mods.

Yes, I can look at deleted threads and posts - just not the previous text of edited posts. That's the nature of the software, vBulletin as it's installed on the server.

In other words, you can't see what I actually wrote, or what the threads actually were about, or indeed the actual specific insult or the "rule violation". You can just see the thread after it was "cleaned up".

Sure, it explains a lot. It certainly explains your idea about my "authority complex". And it explains why posts that are deleted very quickly are simply not there - such as in the Ahmadinejad- thread - where I suppose you think I'm lying when I said a perfectly reasonable question was deleted, in addition to the less respectful one.

Originally Posted by MattLarson

You were reminded of the forum rule, and you responded in a very rude, juvenile manner.

Then post the rest of the messages.

..here's what I have:

I need take it up with nobody else. I have issued you a warning.

Comply or not as you choose. Understand that non-compliance will have consequences.

Matt

I suppose I must've done something to offend you. I wonder what it was.. could it have something to do with the thread you insisted on debating me in right before, when I was retroactively issued warnings for calling you a liar (with proof), since the "liar rule" had just been debated (but not yet announced). And where I committed the grave rule- violation of setting you on ignore. And then posted a thread on abuse of moderator privileges afterwards, where I questioned how acceptable it would be to issue retroactive warnings, in abstracts, that nevertheless was interpreted as "discussing moderator actions"? I wonder..

Again, I'm sure you see this in a connection with something else I said. So post the exchanges, and explain your point of view - I'm sure it'll be interesting.

[MattLarson]

Well look at that. You do have the whole exchange after all.

I don't connect that exchange with anything else, and frankly the assertion seems pretty paranoid.

I sent you a notice to follow the rules, and you created a whole conspiracy around it.

Matt

[muspell]

In other words, you made up the rest about the "juvenile response", just as I implied, and now have proved. As well as had your admit in public.

*shakes head* I suppose you thought you were pretty clever. But - I wonder how many members you and O'Sullivan have baited like this, and banned, or chased off the site. I know of at least two for certain - but that's not all, is it, psycho?

[Si modo]

Originally Posted by muspell

In other words, you made up the rest about the "juvenile response", just as I implied, and now have proved. As well as had your admit in public.

*shakes head* I suppose you thought you were pretty clever. But - I wonder how many members you and O'Sullivan have baited like this, and banned, or chased off the site. I know of at least two for certain - but that's not all, is it, psycho?

Post within the rules and I bet you don't have any problems. If you don't like the rules, post somewhere else. It's pretty simple and involves no Konspiracy. And I know three for certain who have been banned from the site for blatant and repeated rules violations. It appears that your incident happened over a year ago. It makes one wonder what is missing in your life that this has so much importance to you even a year later.

[Speakeasy]

Originally Posted by muspell

In other words, you made up the rest about the "juvenile response", just as I implied, and now have proved. As well as had your admit in public.

*shakes head* I suppose you thought you were pretty clever. But - I wonder how many members you and O'Sullivan have baited like this, and banned, or chased off the site. I know of at least two for certain - but that's not all, is it, psycho?

Wait, did you just insult a moderator by calling him a 'psycho'? You're not helping your case here at all.

[Si modo]

Originally Posted by Speakeasy

Wait, did you just insult a moderator by calling him a 'psycho'? You're not helping your case here at all.

And s/he didn't even imply that insult.

[AjaxPress]

I've been unfairly threatend by a mod.