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Re: Setting moderators on the Ignore- list

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Wait, did you just insult a moderator by calling him a 'psycho'? You're not helping your case here at all.
Well, what do you call people who deliberately lie about others, not only in the belief they will get away with it, but to abuse their moderator privileges to buff their ego?

Or do you think that's perfectly commendable and normal behaviour, Speakeasy? That you'd be happy to copy as a moderator?

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It appears that your incident happened over a year ago. It makes one wonder what is missing in your life that this has so much importance to you even a year later.
That was just an example. O'Sullivan's example is not from a year ago, and that is not the only recent example. Also, I have been gone for quite a while, you know. And I think I had been here less than a week before the first "warning". Once again because of something that offended "Foamy" - again without any explanation.
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Re: Setting moderators on the Ignore- list

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Well, what do you call people who deliberately lie about others, not only in the belief they will get away with it, but to abuse their moderator privileges to buff their ego?
If that were even the case, I wouldn't call them any name, because it would be against the forum rules. You just clearly broke the rules in a thread trying to defend yourself. You have clearly illustrated that you break the forum rules here, so your credibility in trying to make yourself look innocent is completely gone.
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Or do you think that's perfectly commendable and normal behaviour, Speakeasy? That you'd be happy to copy as a moderator?
I don't agree with your premise, so there's no reason for me to even comment here.
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That was just an example. O'Sullivan's example is not from a year ago, and that is not the only recent example. Also, I have been gone for quite a while, you know. And I think I had been here less than a week before the first "warning". Once again because of something that offended "Foamy" - again without any explanation.
Muspell, all the warnings you received from before your 'break' and after your return have been reviewed by the mod and admins here. Not only were they all warranted, but you should be permanently banned by the automatic warning system now. The only reason why you're still posting here is because the mod team has given you a few breaks, reversed warnings against you and given you plenty of second chances. We have given you the benefit of the doubt more times than we probably should've and because of this, you're still here today.

This is why I find it absolutely hilarious that you are posting here, attempting to make yourself a martyr against the mod team who are the ones who allow you to continue posting here in the first place. Had we allowed the warning system to do it's thing without interfering, you would've been permanently banned from this site since last November.

So, continue to call us psychos, attack our character, accuse us of dishonest moderating tactics and rebel against us, but keep in mind that you shouldn't even be posting here if not for us hoping you would improve your posting habits.

We have given you an incredible amount of reprieves for someone who is a constant rule violator.
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Re: Setting moderators on the Ignore- list

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If that were even the case, I wouldn't call them any name, because it would be against the forum rules. You just clearly broke the rules in a thread trying to defend yourself. You have clearly illustrated that you break the forum rules here, so your credibility in trying to make yourself look innocent is completely gone.

I don't agree with your premise, so there's no reason for me to even comment here.
In other words, you dismiss the details - in the immediate posts above your reply that I used to prove my assertions about how Matt is "telling untruths" through his teeth - out of hand. And therefore "do not accept the premise".

You're a funny bunch, aren't you.
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Muspell, all the warnings you received from before your 'break' and after your return have been reviewed by the mod and admins here. Not only were they all warranted, but you should be permanently banned by the automatic warning system now. The only reason why you're still posting here is because the mod team has given you a few breaks, reversed warnings against you and given you plenty of second chances. We have given you the benefit of the doubt more times than we probably should've and because of this, you're still here today.
And why were those warnings reversed, Speakeasy? Did you see that for yourself? What about the warnings that never were reversed, and are still not explained? What about the numerous unspecific warnings you recently "reviewed"?

Hilarious doesn't even begin to describe it, Speakeasy.
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This is why I find it absolutely hilarious that you are posting here, attempting to make yourself a martyr against the mod team who are the ones who allow you to continue posting here in the first place. Had we allowed the warning system to do it's thing without interfering, you would've been permanently banned from this site since last November.

So, continue to call us psychos, attack our character, accuse us of dishonest moderating tactics and rebel against us, but keep in mind that you shouldn't even be posting here if not for us hoping you would improve your posting habits.

We have given you an incredible amount of reprieves for someone who is a constant rule violator.
Ah, yes. Constant violator of the rules. And so ungrateful I am for not kissing your feet for being allowed to stay.

Next I suppose you're going to accuse me of abusing my posting privilege to make you look like complete fools. Thank you for today
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Re: Setting moderators on the Ignore- list

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In other words, you made up the rest about the "juvenile response", just as I implied, and now have proved. As well as had your admit in public.

*shakes head* I suppose you thought you were pretty clever. But - I wonder how many members you and O'Sullivan have baited like this, and banned, or chased off the site. I know of at least two for certain - but that's not all, is it, psycho?
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Re: Setting moderators on the Ignore- list

And, Muspell, the only one who's looking like a fool here is you.
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Re: Setting moderators on the Ignore- list

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In other words, you dismiss the details - in the immediate posts above your reply that I used to prove my assertions about how Matt is "telling untruths" through his teeth - out of hand. And therefore "do not accept the premise".

You're a funny bunch, aren't you.
I am not going to comment on the discussion between you and Matt. I am commenting on you violating the forum rules once again, by calling him a psycho.

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And why were those warnings reversed, Speakeasy? Did you see that for yourself? What about the warnings that never were reversed, and are still not explained? What about the numerous unspecific warnings you recently "reviewed"?

Hilarious doesn't even begin to describe it, Speakeasy.
Any reversal of the warnings was not done because the warnings were mistaken. They were made as a sort of 'peace offering' to you to hopefully get you to begin following the rules. At the time, we believed that by showing a bit of moderating mercy to you, you would get that moder'hatin' out of your system and start contributing to the forum like a large majority of the other users. Obviously, this olive branch we extended to you was completely ignored.
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Ah, yes. Constant violator of the rules. And so ungrateful I am for not kissing your feet for being allowed to stay.
No feet kissing necessary. I'm just pointing out that it's hilarious that your complaining to us without realizing that we're the ones allowing you to complain in the first place. You should've been gone long ago and instead of realizing this and changing your ways, you stubbornly continue to hassle us at every chance you get. We are on solid ground to drop you from this site at a moments notice, due to your long history of rule violations, yet you still continue to give us trouble.
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Re: Setting moderators on the Ignore- list

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Ah, yes. Constant violator of the rules.
A quick perusal through the warning archives does indicate that you seem to have trouble not telling other posters to "fuck off", calling them nasty names, and the like. A lot of trouble. Over, and over, and over again.

Even in a thread where you were pleading your case as the picture of the abused martyr, you couldn't control yourself. That's very telling, I'm sure, to anyone reading.

*shrug*

Does this post earn me a mention in your blog that's dedicated to whining about USPO?
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Old 10-11-2007
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Re: Setting moderators on the Ignore- list

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As far as I know, it only applies if you edit your own post. Anytime I've ever edited someone else's post, "edited" by has appeared, regardless of the time frame. Though, admittedly, I've never conducted any kind of specific experiment.
Then do so. But yes, edits have been done without that showing up. It's been discussed on the forum before.
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I'm not sure what you're implying, but I don't doubt that you believe it does.
I'm implying that there's a reason why some of us have their posts almost instantly edited, repeatedly, and then get these curious responses from the other mods.
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Yes, I can look at deleted threads and posts - just not the previous text of edited posts. That's the nature of the software, vBulletin as it's installed on the server.
In other words, you can't see what I actually wrote, or what the threads actually were about, or indeed the actual specific insult or the "rule violation". You can just see the thread after it was "cleaned up".
Wow. So much paranoia here, I am not sure where to start.

Everything you are claiming is nonsense. Here's how the forum software actually works:

1. When a member posts a message, there is a brief interval of time where they can edit the post without the "last edited by" tag appearing.
2. Whenever a moderator edits a post made by another member, there is an entry in the moderation log that the post was edited. This occurs no matter how long the post was up before it was edited.
3. When a moderator edits a post, they can no longer issue a warning for that post. If I click on edit and change a post, the Warn link disappears.
4. When a warning is issued for a post, the entire post is copied to the warning, and this is accessible to all of the forum staff.

Your claims that your posts are being secretly edited, or that your posts are being edited and then you are receiving warnings are false.

So let's be clear, so we can avoid any more false accusations.

Moderators cannot ever edit your post without leaving a record in the moderation log.

You cannot be issued a warning for a post that has been edited. The software will not do it.

When you do get a warning, your entire post is recorded with the warning, and can be viewed by all members of the forum staff.


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Re: Setting moderators on the Ignore- list

If you guys are going to continue secretly editing posts, I can think of a few authors who could use some good editing - grammar, punctuation, spelling, or translation from gibberish to English would all be appreciated.



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If you guys are going to continue secretly editing posts, I can think of a few authors who could use some good editing - grammar, punctuation, spelling, or translation from gibberish to English would all be appreciated.



Nah, too mundane. It's only done when we're participating in a sweeping conspiracy against a very important poster
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Re: Setting moderators on the Ignore- list

Like a high scientist?
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I can't believe it; he does actually have a blog on it:

The internet - attitude wanted - no manners, honesty or morals necessary.. - ..out of the dark - by fleinn

Seriously. Life is good. Get out and get some sunshine or something. Meet a girl. Hell, meet a guy. Do SOMETHING!
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Yeah, dude. I wouldn't make that up. It's too... ahem, anyway.
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In other words, you made up the rest about the "juvenile response", just as I implied, and now have proved. As well as had your admit in public.

*shakes head* I suppose you thought you were pretty clever. But - I wonder how many members you and O'Sullivan have baited like this, and banned, or chased off the site. I know of at least two for certain - but that's not all, is it, psycho?
And of course that's a total pile of false shit, designed to draw me in to play your games.

I intentionally avoided this thread until now because I figured you were up to no good with it and were merely using this theme to weave around to mod attacks, and surprise surprise, here you are, including weaving it to go after me too to suck me into your little game.

As you well know from my last communication with you, which of course you even posted out of context on your anti-US blog in order to attack us there, I'm fed up with your games. This includes your intentional distortions of mod PMs, including mine, in which I finally put down my foot on you first abusing posters, then mods for citing you, and then abusing me with rude PMs and with foul language when I tried to handle it constructively.

You repeatedly abuse posters here and then abuse the staff. This is not why the site is here and it's time for it to end. Either use the site within its rules for political discussion or go elsewhere.

I'm going to make this clear--if I see you one more time make any sort of public attack on a moderator or admin on this site, I will ban your account with no further notice as a troll account. Enough is enough.

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