Style Feedback Sought!

[Si modo]

Originally Posted by Marc

I would encourage the more adventurous out there to go out and find other styles they think would be good for this site. Again, I would prefer a blue theme, clean, professional, not corny, etc.

Thanks!

Yes. Class is the way to go, IMO.

[Marc]

The plan is to update the forum software this coming Wednesday. Some of the changes will be behind the scenes, but I will also be adding some features for everyone to try and create a better community atmosphere.

The other software is free, which is a big plus for some. I don't mind spending some money if I think I am getting a better product...which I think I am. I do believe the free products out there are great--I just believe this is better.

As for how boring the layout/style is...that is why I am considering changing the style. It is largely a function of the style and mods you implement, not the software itself.

[Traveler]

Right and because its down to you, i said "no offennce" but it isn't that exciting a layout. I don't mean it as insult but its hardly eye catching.

As for the software itself well i still preffer PhPBB's headers and stuff a bit better, i just wish their society and class of nerds would come up with better features, what they do asa non profit group is honorable bu you can see they can't compete with VB and the likes of.

[Traveler]

I just switched to Plasma, but its just possible to use it long term, some of the functions have "X" because the image won't show but the other problem is there is no seperate color (or such a small variation it would like 1 number from like 233 to 234) to be able to differenciate posts! There's practically no contrast at all.

[Rakkasan]

Originally Posted by Traveler

I just switched to Plasma, but its just possible to use it long term, some of the functions have "X" because the image won't show but the other problem is there is no seperate color (or such a small variation it would like 1 number from like 233 to 234) to be able to differenciate posts! There's practically no contrast at all.

that has been my problem......so i stopped using it

[Traveler]

Man this is difficult...i'm gonna switch back. The theory is good but in practise its difficult, at least with this one.

[partofme]

I usually use inversions but I'm on liquid (main) now for something different.

[Alex]

I like the existing default, but .....of the two options I prefer number 2

[Anselme]

#2 too

[pramjockey]

Originally Posted by Alex

I like the existing default, but .....of the two options I prefer number 2

Agreed.

I like the lighter color scheme - to me it seems more "professional" if it's not glaring colors and heavy graphics.

I like simplicity.

[Captain Trips]

Hopefully we can get say four or five skin choices and take a vote or something ?

Anyways looks like the discussion gets political LOL

Damnthisplace

Originally Posted by partofme

This site seems so much more partisan than the real world. Most people I know have a mixed view of things other than those that listen to talk radio or Keith Olberman.

What is it with you complaining about people that listen to talk radio, which tends to be conservative, or visiting conservative newssources online (you always complain about my citing and using them in thread starting posts) ? You add in a complaint about those who would listen to K. Olberman.

Are you expecting a sort of homogeneity in news sources and those who give us analyses of what is going on in the world ?

Are you wishing for some kind of IMPOSED homogeneity. Imposed by fooling "the people" and telling them that what is being presented is "fair and balanced reporting" ?

Who ARE these perfect "fair and balanced" people that we would give the power and faith too, to present a perfect "fair and balanced" veiw of what is happening in todays world ?

Originally Posted by partofme

I would say that most older people I run into tend to be socially conservative and fiscally liberal while it seems to be somewhat the reverse with younger people. People that come into the restaurant that are older seem to think the world is going to hell in a hand basket and needs to be more like the good old days and younger people (mainly students) are longing for a move forward.

Well said. What exactly IS "a move forward" though ? A persons view of such a thing changes over time as you're pointing OUT here.

Originally Posted by partofme

Seniors see family values as what the good old days are like yet are against things like free trade. Most young people are not as leftist as most assume other than certain circles that are probably a minority around here but are more open minded to personal choices. This leaves both sides not completely fit into what we think of in this country as right and left. Personally I think that anybody that uses ideology or party affiliation to make up their mind rather than judging each issue on their own is really cutting the thinking process out.

That's not an uncommon argument used against those that we don't agree with.

Personally I think that anybody that uses ideology or party affiliation to make up their mind rather than judging each issue on their own is really cutting the thinking process out.

Explain to us all how "Those people have stopped thinking." since their ideas and opinions differ from our own.

I'm sure I've even used it before :-)

It isn't accurate at all.

[Steerpike]

There is nothing wrong with the current style.

[partofme]

Originally Posted by Captain Trips

Hopefully we can get say four or five skin choices and take a vote or something ?

Anyways looks like the discussion gets political LOL

Damnthisplace



What is it with you complaining about people that listen to talk radio, which tends to be conservative, or visiting conservative newssources online (you always complain about my citing and using them in thread starting posts) ? You add in a complaint about those who would listen to K. Olberman.

Are you expecting a sort of homogeneity in news sources and those who give us analyses of what is going on in the world ?

Are you wishing for some kind of IMPOSED homogeneity. Imposed by fooling "the people" and telling them that what is being presented is "fair and balanced reporting" ?

Who ARE these perfect "fair and balanced" people that we would give the power and faith too, to present a perfect "fair and balanced" veiw of what is happening in todays world ?



Well said. What exactly IS "a move forward" though ? A persons view of such a thing changes over time as you're pointing OUT here.



That's not an uncommon argument used against those that we don't agree with.

Personally I think that anybody that uses ideology or party affiliation to make up their mind rather than judging each issue on their own is really cutting the thinking process out.

Explain to us all how "Those people have stopped thinking." since their ideas and opinions differ from our own.

I'm sure I've even used it before :-)

It isn't accurate at all.

Well I was talking about people who are pundits rather than reporters and those that try and go by what ideology dictates for each issue rather than judge them on their own. Talk radio both liberal and conservative isn't about analysis. Watch Washington Week to get some analysis. These are people just offering their opinions which usually always fall in line with one ideology or the other. My statement about those that long for the good old days was a general statement about a frame of mind rather than anything specific. I haven't accused specific individuals of not thinking but there is a proportion of society that listen to specific talk radio hosts/editorial writers/television hosts that take their word as gospel and others that literally do not form a opinion but just think "what is the conservative/liberal thing to think" and go with that. Mainly those labels are a group they feel they are a part of and mold themselves about what they think those things are. For them politics is something used to push specific dogma rather than working to find solutions to problems.

[Captain Trips]

Originally Posted by partofme

Well I was talking about people who are pundits rather than reporters and those that try and go by what ideology dictates for each issue rather than judge them on their own. Talk radio both liberal and conservative isn't about analysis. Watch Washington Week to get some analysis. These are people just offering their opinions which usually always fall in line with one ideology or the other. My statement about those that long for the good old days was a general statement about a frame of mind rather than anything specific. I haven't accused specific individuals of not thinking but there is a proportion of society that listen to specific talk radio hosts/editorial writers/television hosts that take their word as gospel and others that literally do not form a opinion but just think "what is the conservative/liberal thing to think" and go with that. Mainly those labels are a group they feel they are a part of and mold themselves about what they think those things are. For them politics is something used to push specific dogma rather than working to find solutions to problems.

Opinions opinions.

Like your above writing, it's all opinions.

Like the otherside uses IT'S dogma, ideas and idealogies to belittle it's opposites, you're doing the same thing.

[partofme]

Originally Posted by Captain Trips

Opinions opinions.

Like your above writing, it's all opinions.

Like the otherside uses IT'S dogma, ideas and idealogies to belittle it's opposites, you're doing the same thing.

I'm not taking up for a side. I'm saying it's silly to choose sides like everything is so black and white. I do not consider myself to be a member of a "side". I have no fondness for Air America or Keith Olberman either if you must think of it in partisan terms.