USpoliticsonline from China

[Donkey_Left]

Originally Posted by winter6126

this is not only happen in China.the same happen in the Europe and North America too.
in Europe and North America countries.oversea Chinese found they can't visit some Chinese site's webpage.for example,in Europe countries,in North America, they can visit ÐÂÎÅÖÐÐÄÊ×Ò³_ÐÂÀËÍø and other sites,but if they click the link to try to view the articles about �¼åU(Tibet),it would show them a page to tell them can't visit link.

how do westerner laugh at Chinese when the same happen in "democratic" western countries?

Man. I tried to check out what you're saying, but my browser apparently can't handle chinese characters... not that I could read them anyway.

[winter6126]

one german so funny.a oversea Chinese told his german colleague that he can't visit some webpage from Germany.she(that german) said: maybe there are some problems with this computer.that oversea chinese said: i can't vist that pages with my computer at home.she answered: repair you computer,then try again.that oversea Chinese said: but my Chinese friends can't visit that pages in Berlin and other cities.that germany woman answered: that website is shut down.the oversea Chinese said: but when i chat with my Chinese friend who live in China,they can visit that pages.
then the woman silence

[winter6126]

Originally Posted by Donkey_Left

Man. I tried to check out what you're saying, but my browser apparently can't handle chinese characters... not that I could read them anyway.

of course you can visit that site's main page.
but oversea Chinese can't visit some pages(about Tibet) of that site.it like that friench can't visit some pages of that thread "I don't understand why"
do you understand my meaning?

[Donkey_Left]

Originally Posted by winter6126

of course you can visit that site's main page.
but oversea Chinese can't visit some pages(about Tibet) of that site.it like that friench can't visit some pages of that thread "I don't understand why"
do you understand my meaning?

Yes. I understand your meaning. Unfortunately, while I can visit the main page, I can't understand anything that is written there. In my browser I don't have it set for Chinese characters, so everything shows up as ????????? so I can't test what you are saying. That's all.

[CYDdharta]

My guess would be because your government deems those issues to be rather sensitive and don't want it published in the international media; thus they are refusing to let that information be accessed by people in foreign countries. I believe it’s another example of Chinese censorship of the Internet.

[wphelan]

Yeah, I have no idea what this page says ( ÐÂÎÅÖÐÐÄÊ×Ò³_ÐÂÀËÍø ), but I can visit it just fine. I'd be really interested to see a link to a site that I can't visit because of censorship by the United States government. I suspect the censorship issues are in China.

[Anselme]

Originally Posted by jviehe

Im curious, why do you live there? Do you have a choice? I dont think I could live in a country like China.

Yes, I have choice, I am not in China for the politics, but for the culture, because I like to travel, and discover new things, although in a few weeks, I'll be back in France.

PS: I could access the first page, and then, with a refresh: timed out and the whole website was unavailable for a few minutes again, while accessing to google or baidu just worked fine...

[Anselme]

Originally Posted by winter6126

of course you can visit that site's main page.
but oversea Chinese can't visit some pages(about Tibet) of that site.it like that friench can't visit some pages of that thread "I don't understand why"
do you understand my meaning?

I will really doubt it Winter... I don't see the point from a Western point of view, in the West, you can easily find the Chinese version of the story about Tibet. There is no one to dictate who can see what.

Even Tibet is a very important issue in China, Tibet is still after all totally irrelevant for many in the West.

[Anselme]

Originally Posted by winter6126

of course you can visit that site's main page.
but oversea Chinese can't visit some pages(about Tibet) of that site.it like that friench can't visit some pages of that thread "I don't understand why"
do you understand my meaning?

Then, give some links to test

[Anselme]

Here are some links within Sina.com.cn (a major chinese web portal) about Tibet to test:

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Î÷²Ø¹«°²Ïû·À×ܶÓÕÙ¿ª´ó»áÐÂÈÎÃüÒ»ÅúÁìµ¼¸É²¿_ÐÂÎÅÖÐÐ Ä_ÐÂÀËÍø
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So, are those pages accessible from the US?

You can use Google translate to translate the whole page if you are adventurous Google Translate

[winter6126]

Originally Posted by Anselme

Here are some links within Sina.com.cn (a major chinese web portal) about Tibet to test:

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So, are those pages accessible from the US?

You can use Google translate to translate the whole page if you are adventurous Google Translate

your links are old news.some news were happend in 2005,2006

[moon]

Here are some links within Sina.com.cn (a major chinese web portal) about Tibet to test:

They're all in Rectangulese.

[Donkey_Left]

Originally Posted by Anselme

Here are some links within Sina.com.cn (a major chinese web portal) about Tibet to test:

Î÷²ØÃñ×å×Ú½ÌÊÂÎñίԱ»áÖ÷Èα»ÃâÖ°_ÐÂÎÅÖÐÐÄ_ÐÂÀËÍø
Î÷²Ø Ãñί - °®ÎÊÐÂÎÅËÑË÷
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Î÷²Ø¹«°²Ïû·À×ܶÓÕÙ¿ª´ó»áÐÂÈÎÃüÒ»ÅúÁìµ¼¸É²¿_ÐÂÎÅÖÐÐ Ä_ÐÂÀËÍø
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So, are those pages accessible from the US?

You can use Google translate to translate the whole page if you are adventurous Google Translate

Yes. Though as moon said, in rectangalese or in questionmarkise.

[Anselme]

Originally Posted by winter6126

your links are old news.some news were happend in 2005,2006

Post better links then so that they can try.

[Ainoow]

Originally Posted by Ainoow

Anselme, indeed the censors are quite crafty. During my trips in China I never can open the bbc news website or some google forums. I was able to check on some Chinese cities in Wikipedia, but that connection was terminated after a few minutes. They really seem to follow-up continuously.

Seems like the Olympics set some things in motion:

In a sign of possible loosening of internet controls, China a few days ago lifted a block on the BBC website that had been in place for years. However, Wikipedia remained outside the firewall — apparently because of its many references to such sensitive issues as the 1989 Tiananmen Square crackdown, the Dalai Lama and Tibet.

Stop blocking the internet, Olympics committee tells China - Times Online