Potential Rule Change

[MattLarson]

Originally Posted by moon

That's simply confused and pompous twaddle. I'm going to ignore it, Larson, out of respect for the OP and the membership that want to debate this through.

Unless you keep harping on, of course. So get off my case. Your call.

Ooops, make that 4 demands to stifle my speech.

Denied. Again.

As far as the OP, the poll results seem to show that there is more support than opposition.

I guess eDemocracy is only valued when the results match your views.

Matt

[Traveler]

Originally Posted by moon

What a farce. Nobody has said that this will be decided by a simple majority. Nobody has said to which camp the 'nueturals' will be assigned, nobody has said what will be considered as a minimum sample of members votes.

Even if all 3 of the non commitals voted nay and Kash's vote being a yes that would split 15 to 10 in favor, which is 2/3rds in favor and a third against.

Not just a "simple" majority.

If this was in our democracy it would be seen as a constitutional majority...but as everyone has said, this is a forum, not a democracy!

[MattLarson]

Originally Posted by moon

What a farce. Nobody has said that this will be decided by a simple majority. Nobody has said to which camp the 'nueturals' will be assigned, nobody has said what will be considered as a minimum sample of members votes. Yet what we have here is a mod claiming 'victory' because mods and a few friends vote for it ? Do me favor, try to construct a political forum with some sense of fair play and democratic values.

Even assigning the neutrals to the nay category, the Ayes have it at the moment.

Personally, I am in the neutral category (and that is how I voted). I'll abide by the will of the membership on the issue.

Matt

[moon]

Larson;

No propensity for censorship, just three demands for me not to speak.

Speak all you like, pal, but don't make me the target of your perpetual bile. It's a simple enough rule. So get off.

[Traveler]

Originally Posted by Traveler

Even if all 3 of the non commitals voted nay and Kash's vote being a yes that would split 15 to 10 in favor, which is 2/3rds in favor and a third against.

Not just a "simple" majority.

If this was in our democracy it would be seen as a constitutional majority...but as everyone has said, this is a forum, not a democracy!

Sorry, that would be 3/5ths in favor not 2/3rds....my error.

[moon]

And what percentage of the memebrship would this pitiful ' three fifths' represent, Traveler. And when does the poll close.

[Traveler]

Poll closes tomorow. Its not open ended i guess, timewise.

As for whom voted, well that's also based on how many folks care...you can't force folks to vote.

[MattLarson]

Originally Posted by moon

And what percentage of the memebrship would this pitiful ' three fifths' represent, Traveler. And when does the poll close.

The poll closes on 05-20-2008 at 05:27 PM.

Just like it says above the poll at the top of the page....

[Si modo]

Originally Posted by Traveler

Poll closes tomorow. Its not open ended i guess, timewise.

As for whom voted, well that's also based on how many folks care...you can't force folks to vote.

Really? You're privy to this information how?

[edit: Thanks Matt.]

[moon]

Poll closes tomorow. Its not open ended i guess, timewise.

Why not ? As soon as the 'nays' outnumber the 'yays' we can have our freedom of speech back. Oh wait, you want this piddling sample result to be permanent

As for whom voted, well that's also based on how many folks care...you can't force folks to vote.

Well then, let's assume that LOTS of people care who aren't even aware of the proposal yet.

Larson;

The poll closes on 05-20-2008 at 05:27 PM.

Why ?

[Traveler]

Don't all elections and "Democracies" have timelines on when you can vote until?

You know, getting in before the booth shuts?

[Traveler]

Btw in the time you've been pushing this issue the votes continue to increase for having the rule implemented...

[MattLarson]

Originally Posted by moon

Larson;


Why ?

Because that's the time selected by the person who created the poll.

Matt

[Traveler]

Originally Posted by moon

Well then, let's assume that LOTS of people care who aren't even aware of the proposal yet.

Yeah or alternatively you could assume a lot don't care, look at the views the thread has had and look at the total amount of votes.

But of those who have expressed an opinion more than twice as many are in favor of it than those who are oppossed, not including the non commitals right now.

[AjaxPress]

You know moon if you're really that concerned you could create a slew of accounts right before the poll closes and vote "Nay". If you time it right the mods might not notice before the poll closes. There's usually a way to rig e-voting for the truly passionate. You could also form chain letters and campaign to your friends and family to vote nay. Personally I look forward to the rule being implemented.