Blasphemy as a forum rule violation

[Non Sequitur]

Originally Posted by SMadsen

Excellent, thanks. The briefness is also appreciated.

I'm tempted to respond to each point but to keep it short as well how about, say, the aforementioned tribe(s) that with one hundred per cent certainty has no knowledge of Christian life, salvation, heaven and hell, yet alone the Judeo-Christian deity? Will you call for sensus divinitatus in such cases and simply claim that any odd religion is, in fact, a relationship with the deity that you call God or will you claim that they can't possibly get to heaven without having been "told" by people who have such knowledge (cf. previous post from Sneddog)?

While sensus divinitatus does have a role to play, I think it is more applies to nature of religious feeling in general. It gets to the heart of why man feels a need for religion.

The example of the tribe that has not heard the Christian message is actually one of the easier ones to answer. Instead of using complicated Latin theological terms it's easier to go to the Bible. Luke 12:48 "But someone who does not know, and then does something wrong, will be punished only lightly. When someone has been given much, much will be required in return; and when someone has been entrusted with much, even more will be required." Much will be expected of Christians because we have the message, but the tribe will be judged differently.

[AJG]

Originally Posted by metalted

Islam is dumb and evil.

Originally Posted by Steve

So is Christianity...

So is Judaism. Every Spring we celebrate a holiday called Passover where we get constipated and set out cups of wine for a drunk jew named Elijah. It's even dumber than Xmas.

[Straight Talk]

Originally Posted by Non Sequitur

As a Christian it can be argued fairly effectively that other religions can go to heaven.

I have a friend who disagrees with you.

Originally Posted by Jesus

I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.

[Non Sequitur]

Originally Posted by Straight Talk

I have a friend who disagrees with you.

Your friend is very right indeed, but nowhere does that passage exclude the possibility (and i emphasize possibility because no one really knows except God the Father) of other religions getting into heaven. If we accept that Jesus is the "way the truth and the light" and "no one comes to father" except through him then couldn't another religion also lead to a proper relationship with God? Could not the ultimate and final truth that is Christ be found in another religion since truth is rarely limited to one thing? I would think God's truth to be all encompassing. God desires salvation for all, not just the few.

but as I said, no one really knows except God the father who the ultimate judge.

[BillyWitchDr.]

Originally Posted by metalted

why hinduism and buddhism?

Caste system PERIOD. End of explantion.

Buddhism is more of an ideology than a faith, or at least its beginings started that way. I find no reason of how it is evil, or dumb.

[Straight Talk]

Originally Posted by Non Sequitur

Your friend is very right indeed, but nowhere does that passage exclude the possibility (and i emphasize possibility because no one really knows except God the Father) of other religions getting into heaven. If we accept that Jesus is the "way the truth and the light" and "no one comes to father" except through him then couldn't another religion also lead to a proper relationship with God? Could not the ultimate and final truth that is Christ be found in another religion since truth is rarely limited to one thing? I would think God's truth to be all encompassing. God desires salvation for all, not just the few.

but as I said, no one really knows except God the father who the ultimate judge.

Except for the fact that Jesus's way is to repent 'biblical' sins and to praise the 'biblical' 'God.' This means that pretty much all non-christians are spending eternity in hell.

[pramjockey]

Originally Posted by Straight Talk

Except for the fact that Jesus's way is to repent 'biblical' sins and to praise the 'biblical' 'God.' This means that pretty much all non-christians are spending eternity in hell.

Really?

Care to quote the scripture?

While you're at it, make sure to quote the descriptions of hell.

[Straight Talk]

Okay, I'll get my King James out.

[Non Sequitur]

Originally Posted by Straight Talk

Except for the fact that Jesus's way is to repent 'biblical' sins and to praise the 'biblical' 'God.' This means that pretty much all non-christians are spending eternity in hell.

Biblical sins are usually things we all find wrong. Murder (with some exceptions), stealing, greed, all are examples of Biblical sins that society at large finds wrong. Jesus says "all those who confess with their mouths and believe with hearts will be saved" but he does not say "only those who confess with their mouths and believe with their hearts will be saved." Salvation is a gift that is bestowed upon the whole world "for God so loved the world that he gave his only son..."

[Straight Talk]

Originally Posted by Non Sequitur

Biblical sins are usually things we all find wrong. Murder (with some exceptions),
stealing, greed, ...

...eating shellfish,working on Saturday, fortune telling, eating fruit from a tree less than 5 years old,
wearing 50% polyester 50% cotton shirts, eating bloody meat, getting tattoos, breeding mules...

oh and my personal favorite: holding other gods before the lord!