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does thou read Bible in Hebrew/Greek translation?
I got my information from Islamic Sites.
My wife reads the Tanakh in Hebrew but neither of us read the Christian big book of myths.

I know two people who study the world of Islam, both are fluent in Arabic and other languages, and both state much of the meaning in the Qur'an is lost in interpretive translations, even by Arabic/English scholars.
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My wife reads the Tanakh in Hebrew but neither of us read the Christian big book of myths.

I know two people who study the world of Islam, both are fluent in Arabic and other languages, and both state much of the meaning in the Qur'an is lost in interpretive translations, even by Arabic/English scholars.
Would you say that the original meaning of the Tanakh is lost when translated into the English Bible?

I would argue ... yes and no. Hebrew is incredibly difficult to translate into English, yet it is not impossible. There are ways to find the best translation.
Usually I take what I consider the two best translations NewAmerican Standard, and Doauy Riehms and compare the two togethor when I have difficulty getting through a section.

The whole Koran cant be translated into english is just meant so we can be expected to take the islamic scholars word for it. and some say, the Koran is allot harsher in arabic towards unbelievers and muslim scholars dumbed down the english versions so westerners can digest it better.
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I do think everyone should pray to God, but its not like I am going to force you too. I just think it would be good for you.
Why, then, are so many christians so fucking stupid that they fail to understand that what would be good for them is to leave non-christians alone?

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I do think some are better then others, and some ideas are worthy of scorn and or debate.
If that's true, then christianity is at the top of that list...
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My wife reads the Tanakh in Hebrew but neither of us read the Christian big book of myths.
Just curious as to what her interest is in doing such a thing?
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poor translation usually means incoherance and inconsistency rather then inaccuracy.. Like you can check if something is a poor translation if its wildly inconsistent. Thats why there are so many sites out there pointing out errors in the Bible. but they base it on the KJV. I have found when I used the two fore mentioned Catholic Bibles in comparison I am able to shut down those kind of accusations. Thus proving the KJV to be an inconsistent Bible.
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Just curious as to what her interest is in doing such a thing?
She's a practicing Jew.
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Why, then, are so many christians so fucking stupid that they fail to understand that what would be good for them is to leave non-christians alone?



If that's true, then christianity is at the top of that list...
Christians think they are trying to help you, even if you don't like it. Personally I have never seen a Christian going door to door that was not part of a cult like mormons and Jehovahs witnesses. But In California holly wood area there seems to be an over abundance of christian based cults.
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poor translation usually means incoherance and inconsistency rather then inaccuracy.. Like you can check if something is a poor translation if its wildly inconsistent. Thats why there are so many sites out there pointing out errors in the Bible. but they base it on the KJV. I have found when I used the two fore mentioned Catholic Bibles in comparison I am able to shut down those kind of accusations. Thus proving the KJV to be an inconsistent Bible.
I've yet to see anything that actually supports the theory that jesus rose from the dead.

All I see is a grave that was robbed.

So, the story of him having risen is inaccurate.

Shit, it's not "inaccurate", it's flat-out fuckin' fantasy...
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Christians think they are trying to help you, even if you don't like it.
Well, that proves to me, then, that christians are fucking stupid...

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Personally I have never seen a Christian going door to door that was not part of a cult like mormons and Jehovahs witnesses. But In California holly wood area there seems to be an over abundance of christian based cults.
I'm nowhere near Hollywood...
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(Note - this post was moved into a new thread out of a closed thread in War and Peace, to discuss the concept of "xxxxxphobia" as a rule violation"...
[Emphasis mine] I hope no one is calling to censor hate speech about spiders or clowns. That's just wrong.

Unfortunately, I've seen the calls for censorship too often from religious fanatics who want to shove their religion's blaspheme laws down my free throat.
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I've yet to see anything that actually supports the theory that jesus rose from the dead.

All I see is a grave that was robbed.

So, the story of him having risen is inaccurate.

Shit, it's not "inaccurate", it's flat-out fuckin' fantasy...

He rose to the dead and appeared to different people according to the accounts provided in the Bible. You ever heard the phrase "doubting thomas" its from that story in the Bible.
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Christians think they are trying to help you, even if you don't like it.
Last I checked, nobody asked for your help.
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Well, that proves to me, then, that christians are fucking stupid...



I'm nowhere near Hollywood...

niether am I, I moved but didn;t change my profile. : )
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Last I checked, nobody asked for your help.

your right. sorry.

its the Spiritual works of mercy.
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Regardless, you can keep your "spiritual works of mercy" to yourself. If any of us are interested, we'll give you a call.
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