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kinetic · #31 (**permalink**) 10-04-2006

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please, feel free to educate away.

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Residents conduct Indignation Rally against CPP-NPA

September 26, 2006

TACLOBAN CITY, Leyte – An Indignation Rally was conducted Saturday by more than 5,000 residents from the affected municipalities of Baybay, Inopacan and Mahaplag. Lt. Col. Mario Lacurom, commander of the 43rd Infantry Battalion based in Sogod, Southern Leyte said that the Indignation Rally is an expression of the people’s desire to seek for justice for the residents and relatives who died in the hands of the CCP- NPA and to call for an end to the CCP-NPA’s reign of terror in the area.

Communist National People's Army of the Philippines

During the March, there was also a re-enactment of the purging victims, hogtied and blind-folded escorted by participants clad in CCP-NPA attire supposedly being led to the “Garden.” The “Rallyists” proceeded to the Municipal Plaza of Baybay, Leyte where a Mass was offered.

http://www.samarnews.com/news2006/sep/f849.htm

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Originally Posted by Bullshit

you may claim not to buy anything from china (i highly doubt it) but your fellow americans certainly do.

I cannot control what everyone spends on. I read the tags and buy from Taiwan, Japan, and avoid China. I am boycotting the olympics from China.

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here, i have an idea. read this and tell me if you can honestly say that china is not just as important (if not more so) to the US than any of its so called allies.

China doesn't need the United States and the United States doesn't need China. I realize that many do not share my views, including you. I don't have any time for Socialists or Communists.

I am well aware that there are many who use their goods, but I don't and won't. Just like I won't buy fuel at Citgo.

conformfailure · #32 (**permalink**) 10-04-2006

I'm always happy to post this article to help people understand our relationship with China.

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In case you haven't the least idea what the heck it means for China to "float" its currency, let me put it in the language we economists use: China's float don't mean squat.

Yet our President, a guy whose marks in Economics 101 are too embarrassing to publish here, ran out to hail the fact that buying Chinese money will now cost more dollars.

The White House line to the media, swallowed whole, is that by making Chinese money (yuan) more expensive to buy with dollars, Americans will buy fewer computers and toys from China -- and US employment will rise.

This will happen when we find Saddam's Weapons of Mass Destruction.

Economics Lesson #1: You can't change the value of goods by changing the value of the currency on the price tag. As my comrade Art Laffer wrote me, "If cheap currency makes your products more competitive, all automobiles would be made in Russia." Driven a Lada lately?

Economics Lesson #2: Don't take economics lessons from George Bush. Or Milton Friedman. Or Thomas Friedman. What that means, class, is don't believe the big, hot pile of hype that China's zooming economy is the result of that Red nation's adopting free market economic policies.

If China is now a capitalist free-market state, then I'm Mariah Carey. China's economy has soared because it stubbornly refused the Free – and Friedman-Market mumbo-jumbo that government should stop controlling, owning and regulating the industry.

China's announcement that it would raise the cost of the yuan covered over a more important notice: China would bar foreign control of its steel sector. China's leaders have built a powerhouse steel industry larger than ours by directing the funding, output, location and ownership of all factories. And rather than "freeing" the industry through opening their borders to foreign competition, the Chinese, for steel and every other product, have shut their borders tight to foreigners except as it suits China’s own industries.

China won't join NAFTA or CAFTA or any of those free-trade clubs. In China, Chinese industry comes first. And it's still, Mssrs. Friedman, the Peoples’ republic. Those Wal-Mart fashion designs called, chillingly, "New Order," are made in factories owned by the PLA, the Chinese Peoples' Liberation Army.

In an interview just before he won the Nobel Prize in economics, Joe Stiglitz explained to me that China's huge financial surge -- a stunning 9.5% jump in GDP this year -- began with the government's funding and nurturing rural cooperatives, fledgling agricultural and industry protected behind high, high trade barriers.

It is true that China's growth got a boost from ending the bloodsoaked self-flagellating madness of Mao's Cultural Revolution. And China, when it chooses, makes use of markets and market pricing to distribute resources. The truth is, Chinese markets are as free as my kids: they can do whatever they want unless I say they can't.

Yes, China is adopting elements of "capitalism." And that's the ugly part: real estate speculation in Shanghai making millionaires of Communist party boss relatives and bank shenanigans worthy of a Neil Bush.

It is not the Guangdong skyscrapers and speculative bubble which allows China to sell us $162 billion more goods a year than we sell them. It is that China's government, by rejecting free-market fundamentalism, can easily conquer American markets where protection is now deemed passé.

And that is why the yuan has kicked the dollar's butt.

America’s only response is to have Alan Greenspan push up real interest rates so we can buy back our own dollars the Chinese won in the export game. The domestic result: US wages drifting down to Mexican maquiladora levels.

Am I praising China? Forget about it. This is one evil dictatorship which jails union organizers and beats, shackles and tortures those who don't kowtow to the wishes of Chairman Rob -- Wal-Mart chief Robson Walton. (Funny how Mr. Bush never mentions the D-word, Democracy, to our Chinese suppliers.)

Class dismissed.

http://www.commondreams.org/views05/0723-21.htm

So if you don't like buying products from the U.S. don't shop at Wal-mart and... oh yeah.. don't vote Republican either. Republicans are happy business associates of China... just ask Kissinger.

kinetic · #33 (**permalink**) 10-04-2006

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Originally Posted by conformfailure

I'm always happy to post this article to help people understand our relationship with China.

I agree with much of the piece but, it is an opinion from Common Dreams, a Democrat Leftist Site if there ever was one.

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So if you don't like buying products from the U.S. don't shop at Wal-mart

Actually, paper products, shave cream, snacks, auto supplies and much more can be purchased at Wally World.

It doesn't matter where a person shops if you look at where the products are manufacturers. Wal-Mart isn't as much of an enemy as the Democrat Party makes them out to be. Target sells China goods as does just about every retailer. That is why I read tags and buy American first when available.

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Bomb blast that aims at the heart of Turkey
14 September 2006

Kurdistan Workers' Party (PKK)

A bomb that went off in the heart of the southeastern provincial capital of Diyarbakir targeted all our people and has sent us into deep mourning. The blast killed 10 people, seven of them children, and wounded scores of others in a busy district. It is clear that the explosion was caused by a bomb.

The authorities in Diyarbakir are saying the blast was probably an accident and that a bomb being carried in a special container aimed for use on an unspecified target went off causing the disaster …

If this is the case then it is the work of the PKK. The terrorist organization's militants were carrying this bomb for an attack but it went off at the wrong time, creating this carnage. The PKK does not want peace and is not only killing Turkish soldiers and policemen on a daily basis, thus provoking a Turkish national outcry that could turn ugly against our country's Kurds, but it is also targeting Kurdish children to create Kurdish furor in the southeast to create regional enmity against Ankara …

It is meaningful that this blast occurred just as a high-powered delegation from the parliamentary human rights commission was visiting the region … The delegation had had several tip offs that some PKK informants had been organized into death squads and were terrorizing people in the Diyarbakir and Mardin areas.
http://www.thenewanatolian.com/opinion-14589.html

conformfailure · #34 (**permalink**) 10-04-2006

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I agree with much of the piece but, it is an opinion from Common Dreams, a Democrat Leftist Site if there ever was one.Actually, paper products, shave cream, snacks, auto supplies and much more can be purchased at Wally World.

I can give a shit about your prejudices against "leftist sites". It's your handicap, not mine.

It doesn't stand as a valid argument either, so we'll just call your opposition to leftist sites as nonsense filler I can ignore since it's not poignant to the discussion.

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It doesn't matter where a person shops if you look at where the products are manufacturers. Wal-Mart isn't as much of an enemy as the Democrat Party makes them out to be. Target sells China goods as does just about every retailer. That is why I read tags and buy American first when available.

Yeah... and I bet you got a yellow ribbon bumper sticker on your SUV in support of our troops Capt. America.

Name me three clothing companies you buy from that is stamped with Made in U.S.A.

Don't forget not to vote Republican if you're so opposed to buy those products. You forgot to comment on that.

kinetic · #35 (**permalink**) 10-04-2006

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I can give a shit about your prejudices against "leftist sites". It's your handicap, not mine.

I said I agreed with much of it, even if it comes from the Leftist site. You talke like a hothead.

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Originally Posted by conformfailure

It doesn't stand as a valid argument either, so we'll just call your opposition to leftist sites as nonsense filler I can ignore since it's not poignant to the discussion.

I am unapologetic about my opposition to Marxists, Maoists, Communists, Socialists, Progressives, Islammunists, Anarchists, and other forms of Leftist anti-Americanism.

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Originally Posted by conformfailure

Yeah... and I bet you got a yellow ribbon bumper sticker on your SUV in support of our troops Capt. America.

I drive a pick-em-up-truck and not only support the troops, but their mission as well.

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Originally Posted by conformfailure

Name me three clothing companies you buy from that is stamped with Made in U.S.A.

I bought these socks at Wal-Mart just a couple days ago. I only purchase non-China products.

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Don't forget not to vote Republican if you're so opposed to buy those products. You forgot to comment on that.

I will vote for whatever party I want regardless of your anger and hostility.

The Communists need to be stopped.

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US official to visit Dhaka to examine refugee issues
Sat. August 19, 2006

The US official in charge of refugee affairs will travel to Malaysia, Bangladesh and Thailand next week to examine refugee issues, the State Department said Thursday. Ellen Sauerbrey, assistant secretary of state for population, refugees and migration affairs, will be accompanied by the United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees, Antonio Guterres, on the Thai portion of the trip.

The objective of the trip to the three Asian nations, from August 21 to September 2, was to "examine refugee programs and policy, including a number of high-profile refugee issues," a State Department statement said, without giving details. She will meet officials and review US-funded refugee programs in the three countries, they said.

Thailand is saddled with 140,000 refugees from military-ruled Myanmar as well as several thousand ethnic Hmong believed from neighbouring Laos. The refugees from Myanmar are living in nine border camps in Thailand, many of whom have been there for up to 20 years. Thailand had also been running refugee camps for several thousand ethnic Hmong.

When the United States withdrew in 1975, many Hmong feared persecution by the communist government of Laos and fled to Thailand, where they lived in refugee camps.
http://www.thedailystar.net/2006/08/19/d60819013622.htm

conformfailure · #36 (**permalink**) 10-04-2006

Name me three clothing companies you buy from that is stamped with Made in U.S.A.

Whenever you're ready.

Yeah, so you're anti-communist. Big wow. I guess that's how anglos still posture to pick up chicks. I hope you're having success with it.

Anyways, I was curious about the clothing you buy. What clothing company you buy from that is Made in the U.S.A.

Can you name me three please? I'm trying to distinguish your knowledge in this since you consciously avoid buying only U.S.A I figured you would be able to toss out a couple of brands you like since you already had knowledge on this but alas, you didn't provide.

Thanks for the article on Dhaka. Very important for America to help them out.

On a sidenote, have you head of a place called Iraq?

kinetic · #37 (**permalink**) 10-04-2006

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Name me three clothing companies you buy from that is stamped with Made in U.S.A.

I named you one. You will have to wait until I look at all my tags. One is enough for now.

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Yeah, so you're anti-communist. Big wow. I guess that's how anglos still posture to pick up chicks. I hope you're having success with it.

You seem angry. Is it because I buy American goods or because I oppose Socialism, Communism, Progressives, Maoism, Anarchy, Marxism and other Leftist anti-Americans?

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Anyways, I was curious about the clothing you buy. What clothing company you buy from that is Made in the U.S.A.

The image must not have come through so here it is again, Dickies socks.

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Originally Posted by conformfailure

I'm trying to distinguish your knowledge in this since you consciously avoid buying only U.S.A I figured you would be able to toss out a couple of brands you like since you already had knowledge on this but alas, you didn't provide.

I have more but am not going through my closets right now. The Dickies socks are going to be it for now.

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Thanks for the article on Dhaka. Very important for America to help them out.

We need to stop the Communists and Islammists worldwide.

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Sri Lanka ruling party-Marxist talks collapse
Wednesday, October 4, 2006

Oct 04, Colombo: Talks between the Sri Lanka Freedom Party (SLFP) and the Marxist People's Liberation Front (JVP) collapsed today since both parties failed to reach a compromise on four vital issues.

The ruling party did not agree to the conditions of immediate cancellation of the Cease Fire Agreement, rejection of Norwegian facilitation of the peace process, de-merger of Northern and Eastern Provinces and minimizing the cabinet to 35 members.
http://www.colombopage.com/archive/O...4145531SL.html

Tree Hugger · #38 (**permalink**) 10-05-2006

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Interesting example.

Yes dickies socks are made in the US, however, the clothing market usually has 300% + mark up. So the majority of the money you spent on those socks went to Wal-Mart, which is currently putting many of its resources into expanding it's China consumer base.

You think you bought made in the USA, yet a good portion of your money is still being used to stimulate China's economy.

kinetic · #39 (**permalink**) 10-05-2006

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Interesting example.

Yes dickies socks are made in the US, however, the clothing market usually has 300% + mark up.

It's as if you can't invent your stories fast enough. Profit is not a bad word. Profit is good. Profit puts food on the table. Because you don't want me to buy at Wal-Mart is more reason why I am going there today to buy more American Made goods, avoiding all Communist products completely.

All the while you avoid the topic of the thread, I am paying attention to all Communists, Maoist and other Leftist Guerrilla attacks worldwide by myself and with out your Leftist support. Amazing.

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Police uncover rebel plot to stage bombings in Metro
July 18 2006
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New People's Army

Police have uncovered a new plot by communist rebels to stage a wave of bombing attacks on anti-government demonstrators holding rallies during the State-of-the-Nation-Address (SONA) of President Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo on Monday, and blame it on the government.

To preempt the grim scenario from happening, Metro Manila police chief Director Vidal Querol placed the National Capital Region Police Office on heightened alert. Querol said documents seized by a military-police raid in Quezon City revealed of a plot by the Communist Party of the Philippines and the New People's Army (CPP/NPA) to bomb the rally sites and blame it to government to ignite anti-government sentiments.

"The heightened alert was raised as part of SONA preparations and due to the threat from communists to lob grenade into the rank of rallyists in case of dispersal," Querol told mediamen in a news conference in Camp Crame. The plot was uncovered following the recovery of the Operation Plan Trident document from a safe house of six members of the Magdalo Group that figured in the short-lived Oakwood mutiny in 2003 who were arrested last July 7.

Also seized from the possession of the six were a large cache of explosives, a blueprint and surveillance pictures of the Batasan complex, which officials said are indications the mutineers are planning to sabotage the SONA. Military and police officials expressed beliefs that the new power grab plot had been already "neutralized" following the discovery of the plan and the arrest and subsequent detention of the six Magdalo Group members.
http://news.balita.ph/html/article.p...60718193909869

Does anyone actually pay attention to Thread Titles to discuss issues or are personal attacks or shopping habit critiques, and other obtuse behaviors, all that the US Politics Online Forum stands for?

CowboyTed · #40 (**permalink**) 10-05-2006

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I said I agreed with much of it, even if it comes from the Leftist site. You talke like a hothead.I am unapologetic about my opposition to Marxists, Maoists, Communists, Socialists, Progressives, Islammunists, Anarchists, and other forms of Leftist anti-Americanism.I drive a pick-em-up-truck and not only support the troops, but their mission as well.I bought these socks at Wal-Mart just a couple days ago. I only purchase non-China products.

I will vote for whatever party I want regardless of your anger and hostility.

The Communists need to be stopped.

But you have no problem with borrowing money from China to wage war in Iraq.

Anyway china sell products for less than the Americain ones... Isn't the Capitalist way that everyone should buy the chinese products...

kinetic · #41 (**permalink**) 10-05-2006

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But you have no problem with borrowing money from China to wage war in Iraq.

I have no control over other's dealing with China's Communists and Socialists.

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Anyway china sell products for less than the Americain ones... Isn't the Capitalist way that everyone should buy the chinese products...

Everyone should be able to decide for themselves to buy products from Communists, Socialists, Islammunists, Marxists, Maoists or other anti-Americans, or not. I choose not to and don't understand why it should matter to you or anyone.

Regardless, the Philippines are in trouble with Communist attacks currently and have many, long years of Terror attacks.

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Soldiers killed in NPA attack in Rizal
Oct. 5, 2006

Suspected communist insurgents attacked an Army detachment in Barangay (village) Puray in Rodriguez, Rizal, early Thursday, killing two soldiers and injuring dozens.
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Philippines Bishop Murdered Amid Concerns Over Military
04 October 2006

There was concern about the Philippines’ security forces Wednesday, October 4, after a bishop of the Philippine Independent Church and a known human rights campaigner, was found dead with stab wounds at his office in a town north of the capital, Manila.

Claims are denied that the Military was allegedly instructing troops to assassinate peasant leaders, deny any military involvement in the killings and disappearances and say communist rebels are responsible.
Read More Here

CowboyTed · #42 (**permalink**) 10-05-2006

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I have no control over other's dealing with China's Communists and Socialists.Everyone should be able to decide for themselves to buy products from Communists, Socialists, Islammunists, Marxists, Maoists or other anti-Americans, or not. I choose not to and don't understand why it should matter to you or anyone.

Regardless, the Philippines are in trouble with Communist attacks currently and have many, long years of Terror attacks.

But you support the war in Iraq. To wage war costs money and since you probably disagree in raising taxes where do you think the money should come from...

The US Goverment borrowed money to go to war from China. So here's your choice Iraq fixed or China as your debt collector...

Bullshit · #43 (**permalink**) 10-05-2006

since we're on the topic of wal-mart and china i thought these figures might be interesting. i found this from a 2004 washington post article. i'll look for more up to date info but i doubt the numbers have changed very much.
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"More than 80 percent of the 6,000 factories in Wal-Mart's worldwide database of suppliers are in China. Wal-Mart estimates it spent $15 billion on Chinese-made products last year, accounting for nearly one-eighth of all Chinese exports to the United States. If the company that Sam Walton built with his "Made in America" ad campaign were itself a separate nation, it would rank as China's fifth-largest export market, ahead of Germany and Britain."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp...nguage=printer

partofme · #44 (**permalink**) 10-05-2006

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Originally Posted by Bullshit

since we're on the topic of wal-mart and china i thought these figures might be interesting. i found this from a 2004 washington post article. i'll look for more up to date info but i doubt the numbers have changed very much.
from the washington post article:

"More than 80 percent of the 6,000 factories in Wal-Mart's worldwide database of suppliers are in China. Wal-Mart estimates it spent $15 billion on Chinese-made products last year, accounting for nearly one-eighth of all Chinese exports to the United States. If the company that Sam Walton built with his "Made in America" ad campaign were itself a separate nation, it would rank as China's fifth-largest export market, ahead of Germany and Britain."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp...nguage=printer

This isn't just a Wal-Mart thing. I was in a Dollar Tree store the other day and for the hell of it I started looking on the products to see where they had been made. Other than the food products almost everything I could find was made in China.

kinetic · #45 (**permalink**) 10-05-2006

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But you support the war in Iraq.

Of course. Saddam Hussein was a terrorist who needed to be taken out long ago.

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To wage war costs money and since you probably disagree in raising taxes where do you think the money should come from...

You are not asking this question because you want my answer.

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The US Goverment borrowed money to go to war from China.

There is no evidence of this. China has business dealings with companies in the United States and elsewhere throughout the globe. I don't support the Communists and do not buy goods made in China.

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So here's your choice Iraq fixed or China as your debt collector...

Actually, the United States Congress opposes China and is protecting companies from Communist takeover.

Meantime, citizens know we are at war. Those who I talk to buy goods made in India, Mexico, Japan but avoid China goods completely. China doesn't need the United States and is actively working against our interests.

China is partially responsible for the genocide in The Sudan.

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China mixes rice and neo-colonialism
Oct 6, 2006

Genocide in Sudan, burning villages and thousands of homeless

When China, one of the world's most corrupt countries, starts dishing out tens of billions of US dollars in aid and business contracts in Africa, the world's most corrupt continent, alarm bells go off in Washington and other Western capitals. The fact that China turns a blind eye to widespread human-rights abuses on the continent further heightens concerns in the West.

Last year, the US Congress successfully blocked the attempted takeover of the US oil company Unocal Corp by CNOOC Ltd, a subsidiary of China National Offshore Oil Corp, one of China's three largest energy firms.

In recent years, China has been increasingly aggressive in diverting and expanding its trade with other parts of the world as its trade frictions with the United States and the European Union intensify.

China will not meddle in the internal affairs of African governments, even if those governments are known for rampant corruption and human-rights abuses.

In Sudan, Beijing is one of Bashir's leading arms supplier and has supported the president's resistance to the stationing of United Nations peacekeeping troops in the Darfur region, where the United States alleges government-sanctioned genocide has killed hundreds of thousands. Chinese support should come as no surprise, since more than half of Sudan's oil exports go to China. Overall, Sudan accounts for 5% of China's oil.

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