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Re: Israel Lebenon, Evil of Zionism.Are we this stupid.

If what you're referring to is somewhere in the bowels of 'aish.com' then I won't be searching for it. Like I said, I looked at, and commented upon, the first nonsense I came across.
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moon where are you from? I am curious because I have never seen an American viciously attack Israel like you do. Not to be mean, or cause an argument or anything.
Then you have also missed "MY" posts.
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Rahul;881517] Which one would that be? RESPONSE To make a short story long:

Many years ago ( 1958)two girls used to watch over my shoulder as i wrote poety in a cafe. and would make admiring comments, Because I knew they were just trying to impress me, I wrote a special Rhyme, just for their benefit. (Quote)

Why? I ask-in all creation I suffer discombobulation
When in effect, the main attraction, remains complete in retrofaction.

While they were saying how profound it was, I was laughing to myself because I had just made up the main words.

There are those who disagree, but that was the beginning of the word "Discombobulation" it is now in dictionaries, and has a meaning "Precisely" as I envisioned it.

You are not mistaken at all. How did you arrive at this conclusion though? Did my avatar have anything to do with it? THis happens to me quite often, I am a bit physic (as opposed to Phycho-- and there also, some people disagree )
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Re: Israel Lebenon, Evil of Zionism.Are we this stupid.

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Rahul;881517] Which one would that be? RESPONSE To make a short story long:

Many years ago ( 1958)two girls used to watch over my shoulder as i wrote poety in a cafe. and would make admiring comments, Because I knew they were just trying to impress me, I wrote a special Rhyme, just for their benefit. (Quote)
Did you manage to hook up with them? And quite the budding poet, you are!


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Why? I ask-in all creation I suffer discombobulation
When in effect, the main attraction, remains complete in retrofaction.

While they were saying how profound it was, I was laughing to myself because I had just made up the main words.

There are those who disagree, but that was the beginning of the word "Discombobulation" it is now in dictionaries, and has a meaning "Precisely" as I envisioned it.
What do the two words "discombulation" and "retrofaction" mean? I must admit the poetry was a bit too complicated for me to comprehend ...

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You are not mistaken at all. How did you arrive at this conclusion though? Did my avatar have anything to do with it? THis happens to me quite often, I am a bit physic (as opposed to Phycho-- and there also, some people disagree )
I like the way you explained that one, Sir!

So, how's the gal in my display pic look?
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Rahul;881568]Did you manage to hook up with them? And quite the budding poet, you are! R%ESPONSE No to the first, They were my chlderen's age0 and I have enough to publish several books and my buds have bloomed and then lost their petals. (I'm about to turn 79) I've got one (Ode to a liar's club) that takes twenty minute to recite. and many limerics --- "Rhymes from the naughty nursery"




What do the two words "discombulation" and "retrofaction" mean? I must admit the poetry was a bit too complicated for me to comprehend ... Those are the two word I had made up. The first means "Confused and all mixed up" Retrofaction has no reasonable meaning..



I like the way you explained that one, Sir!

So, how's the gal in my display pic look? [/quote] I hope this isn't insulting, Since I don't know your gender but I prefer those less endowed.
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Rahul;881568]Did you manage to hook up with them? And quite the budding poet, you are!

ESPONSE No to the first, They were my children's age to the secomd --- I have enough to publish several books and my buds have bloomed and then lost their petals. (I'm about to turn 79) I've got one (Ode to a liar's club) that takes twenty minute to recite. and many limerics --- "Rhymes from the naughty nursery"

What do the two words "discombulation" and "retrofaction" mean? I must admit the poetry was a bit too complicated for me to comprehend ...

RESPONSE Those are the two words I had made up. The first means "Confused and all mixed up" Retrofaction has no reasonable meaning..



I like the way you explained that one, Sir!

So, how's the gal in my display pic look? RESPONSE I hope this isn't insulting, Since I don't know your gender but I prefer those less endowed.
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Re: Israel Lebenon, Evil of Zionism.Are we this stupid.

Here some neat videos too.

Here are some terrorists using kids as human shields. They're not removing them from danger or anything like that.

YouTube - Armed palestinian terrorists using Children as human Shield


Here some friendly settlers saying hi to some palestinians

YouTube - Settler children in Tel Rumeida (occupied Palestine) part 2

YouTube - Settler children in Tel Rumeida (occupied Palestine) part 3


Lebanese death toll.
CNN.com - Lebanon proposes plan to end violence - Aug 7, 2006
"So far the conflict has resulted in 98 Israeli deaths, including 35 civilians,"


The majority of Lebanese deaths were civilian. The majority of Israelis deaths were military.
Death toll in Lebanon surpasses 1,000 - INQ7.net

BBC NEWS | Middle East | Lebanon death toll 'reaches 900'
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Re: Israel Lebenon, Evil of Zionism.Are we this stupid.

I was thinking about the palestine Israeli problem today. Trying to be as objective as possible. I was thinking that Elements in Israel are probably using Palestinian attacks and terrorism as an excuse to Create settlements and kick muslims out. Probably just making more angry people. Of course this does not excuse palestinian terrorism which i find the most disgusting thing of all, blowing up yourself to kill civilians on busses.

I was thinking that in all likelyhood there is probably an element in israel that want to eventually incorporate all of the biblical Israel into its lands, Recreate the empire of King Solomon. They do it in small steps using Palestinian attacks as an excuse, saying we need to defend ourselves, take key defensive positions, like the golan heights, but then go along alittle further. The Israeli and American public accepts this a necessary means of defense. Not fully knowing what is really going along.

Its also quite obvious that theres an element of Palestine that wants all of israel destroyed, that are not willing to negotiate a settlement, that continue terrorist attacks no matter what israel offers on negotiation table, no matter if israel destroys settlements on palestinian land. No matter what they want israel to no longer exist. This element destroys credibility of the Palestinian people. It gives Israel an excuse to conquer, take land, kick muslims out, and Dominate the population. These people are ruining it for everyone. Israel has shown time and time again that they are willing to negotiate. Does anyone know why the Palestinians declared war after being offered 90 percent of what they want when Bill clinton was brokering deals with Yasser Arafat and I forget the Israeli leader at the time?
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Rahul;881568]Did you manage to hook up with them? And quite the budding poet, you are!

ESPONSE No to the first, They were my children's age to the secomd --- I have enough to publish several books and my buds have bloomed and then lost their petals. (I'm about to turn 79) I've got one (Ode to a liar's club) that takes twenty minute to recite. and many limerics --- "Rhymes from the naughty nursery"

Hehe - tell us some rhymes from the naughty nursery. Should be funny!

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What do the two words "discombulation" and "retrofaction" mean? I must admit the poetry was a bit too complicated for me to comprehend ...

RESPONSE Those are the two words I had made up. The first means "Confused and all mixed up" Retrofaction has no reasonable meaning..
Ah, OK I see.

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I like the way you explained that one, Sir!

So, how's the gal in my display pic look? RESPONSE I hope this isn't insulting, Since I don't know your gender but I prefer those less endowed.
@ "Since I don't know your gender", and more at "I prefer those less endowed"!

lmao. No problem Doniston ... Was just asking! She's actually not that endowed as she looks in the picture.

And no, it ain't MY picture.
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Re: Israel Lebenon, Evil of Zionism.Are we this stupid.

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Very Interesting must See. Photo Fraud in Lebanon


This is what we DESPRITELY need right now. This woman is my hero.
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I found the first video very interesting. But all sides of a conflict try and use the media to their advantage. Israel has their own share of propaganda.

In the end Israel killed ~1200 innocent civilians and destroyed both civilian and public infrastructure. Worse, they failed to achieve anything positive. And they still don't have their soldiers back... Worse still, they strengthened Hezbollah.

Children are still being blown up by cluster bombs released in the final hours of the conflict.

The video you linked was in its own way a bit of disinformation by an attempt to absolve Israel of real crimes.

The second video is great. The Muslim world definitely needs more of that. Congrats to her.

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I found the first video very interesting. But all sides of a conflict try and use the media to their advantage. Israel has their own share of propaganda.Andrew
Really? It does not appear to me as being half as effective as palestinian propaganda. Case in point America is Israels only friend in the entire world. Muslims around the world rally to Palestinian cause, Europeans and liberals seem to be in the Blame Israel first crowd.

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In the end Israel killed ~1200 innocent civilians and destroyed both civilian and public infrastructure. Worse, they failed to achieve anything positive. And they still don't have their soldiers back... Worse still, they strengthened Hezbollah.
I agree, but theres a principle here. You can not let militias attack you and stand by and do nothing. You must send a message that this is unacceptable, If you do not people think you are weak and continue doing attacks. All messages by israel that intended to show it was ready to make peace talks, offerings, dismantled settlements have been met with war and violence because extremist groups view this as a sign that israel may be weakening, or its resolve may be faltering. They think the more attacks they make the more israel will look bad in retaliation, the more public pressure is put on them.



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The video you linked was in its own way a bit of disinformation by an attempt to absolve Israel of real crimes.Andrew
Notice it did not say that civilians did not suffer or die, it just said that people are intentionally trying to make the suffering on the palestinian side more appealing, more drammatic, more convincing. The big and powerful Israeli nation picking on the weak and helpless. This is not disinformation, this is information.
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False. You're a propaganda victim.

Now, instead of being a medium for the dissemination of misinformation, look at current events on a daily basis. Throw away your aish.com links, uninstall your Megaphone software and read some 'foreign' newspapers.

Here's an Israeli one to get you started;
http://www.haaretz.com/
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Rahul;881808]Hehe - tell us some rhymes from the naughty nursery. Should be funny!RESPONSE I trie that a few months ago, but most of the respnding posts were absolute filth. Things can be mildly raunchy with out being filth. but here's one:

A Hickery-Dickery Doc
Kept his favorit mouise in a clock,
when the house burned down,
the story got roun',
that he kept her ash in a crock

OK????? I have posted others in various places on this forum, I would do so in the poetry section again, but I'm sure the result would be the same.


"Since I don't know your gender", I also assume you are male, ('course that is just a guess --- with a 49/49 chance of being right)



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Here some neat videos too.

Here are some terrorists using kids as human shields. They're not removing them from danger or anything like that.

YouTube - Armed palestinian terrorists using Children as human Shield


Here some friendly settlers saying hi to some palestinians

YouTube - Settler children in Tel Rumeida (occupied Palestine) part 2

YouTube - Settler children in Tel Rumeida (occupied Palestine) part 3


Lebanese death toll.
CNN.com - Lebanon proposes plan to end violence - Aug 7, 2006
"So far the conflict has resulted in 98 Israeli deaths, including 35 civilians,"


The majority of Lebanese deaths were civilian. The majority of Israelis deaths were military.
Death toll in Lebanon surpasses 1,000 - INQ7.net

BBC NEWS | Middle East | Lebanon death toll 'reaches 900'
Thanks for the links they were interesting. I was wondering though if you were trying to send a message through these links? Because It appeared to me you were trying to say either both sides are f-cked up which i agree with. Or that the high civilian deaths were a direct result of gunman carrieng civilians around which i find unlikely.

Also as for me being a victim of propaganda, I am not disseminating propaganda from David Duke, Palistinian News, or Al Jazeera.
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Rahul;881808]Hehe - tell us some rhymes from the naughty nursery. Should be funny!RESPONSE I trie that a few months ago, but most of the respnding posts were absolute filth. Things can be mildly raunchy with out being filth. but here's one:

A Hickery-Dickery Doc
Kept his favorit mouise in a clock,
when the house burned down,
the story got roun',
that he kept her ash in a crock

OK????? I have posted others in various places on this forum, I would do so in the poetry section again, but I'm sure the result would be the same.
Thanks for sharing that. I'm not so sure how it'd classify as being raunchy, tho ...

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Correct. Male. With a beer in hand, preferably!

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