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Re: The Truth about Guantanamo
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Its not funny when a guy tries to kill himself 12 times and fails all 12 times, its fucking pathetic. On a bright note for him i'm sure this could be good grounds for release for him, how would he ever be training to be a suicide bomber for Al Qaeda if he can't even get the suicide bit right? Anyway if nothing else it does show that our security systems there must be good to manage to stop this guy from dying some 12 times after he has tried over and over. These guys are treated well and don't deserve even half of the privellages they get. |
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Or it could be the fact that U.S. marines have managed to stop him from killing himself several times could it not?
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So the prisonment of these people is unconstitutional. Quote:
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I didn't say it was entertaining, I said it was funny. "The Godfather" was entertaining, and wasn't funny. I think Jerry Lewis, in his heyday, was funny, but I don't find him entertaining. I agree with you, though, that they get far more than they deserve... |
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On a side note we are actually bombing opium fields in Afghanistan, so maybe parts of the war on drugs actually are war like! |
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Re: The Truth about Guantanamo
We've also killed people in Colombia and fired bullets.
Not sure about the bombs, though.
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Since you seem to know so much about the document, surely you can point us to the section which discusses privledges... |
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The Constitution and the Bill of rights define the limits of what the government can do, they have nothing to do with the circumstances of the individual. But under Bush's doctrine, a US citizen in the United States, has no more rights than a foreigner in Guantanamo, witness the case of Jose Padilla, an American citizen, arrested in Chicago, and denied all rights for years.
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As has already been stated we could be giving them 10 course meals every night, with bubble baths, we could give them a giant Mosque and anything else they ask for, but as long as we are imprisoning them illegally they are being treated terribly.
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Cuba has leased it out to us for the last 60 years but it remains their land; its just their laws don't apply there because they have no juridictional authority under their own laws "in land which they lease to a foreign land or sovereign state". That's why we put the detainee's there in the first fucking place! If you are a certain distance away from the continental U.S. and don't have civillian U.s. law in that place, i.e. a military base in Europe os Asia then the constitutional rights they may be entitled to elsewhere in the U.S. are not applicable. Quote:
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You know full well these guys are not entitled to anything grnted by the constitution because Guitmo is not classified as U.S. land...stop playing dumb. |
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Nobody expected you to care. You are one of the more narrowminded selfish people who draws breath.
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