What slogans? Open a history book and get a clue! Your attempt at intellectualism on this thread is like watching a monkey trying to fuck a football.

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"Chaplain Charlie will tell you about how the free world will conquer Communism with the aid of God and a few marines! God has a hard-on for marines because we kill everything we see! He plays His games, we play ours! To show our appreciation for so much power, we keep heaven packed with fresh souls! God was here before the Marine Corps! So you can give your heart to Jesus, but your ass belongs to the Corps! Do you ladies understand?"

interesting that you criticize once again the "accidental killing" of innnocents when americans are involved

yet applaud the thugs and murdereres on your side of the war who once again target civilians.....

your hypocricy is so fucking pathetic it is laughable...when your buddies have a trial to put your heroes who chop off peoples heads and film it for PR purposes. WHen they do that and you say that they deserve to be prosecuted then you have something to whine about american soliders , and would have some moral standing in this arguement until then you are just a terrorists sympathizer who is worse than the guys doing the crime

once again you dodge the fact that you mock what you dont understand nor could cause you still think there is an "I" in team

Why would I care? If being part of a team effort is what someone desires to tie their life to that's their business. Outside of my relationship with my wife I've never had that compulsion.

I'll have to admit I haven't actually heard the term no I in team used since I was involved in high school sports. I do know the concept was and is employed at lower supervisory levels in the business community, team sports and the military to inspire individuals to function as group effort where individual efforts most often hamper operational goals. But as a way of life? That seems rather extreme unless that's one's comfort zone and choice of peer group, which is the goal of repetitious training.

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There was nothing 'accidental ' about it. The US troops deliberately slaughtered civilians, according to the evidence if not the verdict. They are the worse terrorists because they go under the banner of 'protectors'.

'There is no 'I' in 'team' portrays well the mentality of many insect species and , occasionally, lemmings . Hardly the standard to wave before intelligent Americans.

Assist American intelligence; give a recruiting sergeant the finger today.

I seeeee ahhhh sooooo, moon is now the arbitor of all that is right...the verdict wasn't "right"...according to what 'evidence' moon? Exactly....

I won't even bother with the hypocrisy angle as its so well worn...and well known...

assist cyberian intellectual standards- increase the literacy rate and critical thinking curriculum budget...please!!!!!

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"The captain has turned off the `No Dubbing' sign. You are free to speak any language you choose."

I'm capable of assessing evidence, just like anybody else. The Haditha verdicts, in the light of the evidence, indicate a military whitewash. A civilian court would have banged the arseholes up, imo. To which I am entitled.

Let's see what happens with the Afghan atrocity case. Stay tuned, your disorientation may have a starring role.

no where in this rubbish did you address the issue that you applaud arab murderers who target civilians . You applaud that action and for it you are a hypocrite

thanks your little rant here proved my point

you are for yourself and yourself only

Why would I possibly want to 'serve my country' by joining the military when it hasn't been attacked? You seem to have problems determining the difference between choosing a vocation and obsession.

If you mean do I need or want to devote my life to those I worked with, you're absolutely correct. In the civilian world I inhabit individualism is an admired trait.

Had you been alive during that era, would you have supported the occupying German army or the French resistance?

wow three responses to one post must of hit a nerve

I am in the civilian world now and my view of the corporate world is still team success sure everyone wants to get their cut, but you aint getting a raise or a promotion for a department that blows ass

maybe thats not the view you get over there in southern oregon where you long for the Bhagwan Shree Rajneesh communal life where you get to stick it to the man , and are stuck in the 60's where you get to burn your draft card

but i doubt that really, i would venture to say you are just pissed that a lowlife ex-soldier counters your anti war bullshit and that is just not acceptable since you are such a higher life form than those in , or were in that "skill set"

Good for you. Your team training will serve you well at the operations line level.

Only been here three years and people do laugh on the rare occasion his name and culture come up and I've always made my own way. Didn't have to burn it, I had a nice exemption.

No Rak, all I've ever tried to say is your choice of vocation was your decision. I preferred to live my life in a different manner. You're the one who decided you were unable to separate patriotism and unquestioned orders by the CINC from your past vocation when discussing current US foreign policy. In your mind anyone who does not totally support current US ME policy and absolutely hate the people who were trying to kill you and your team is a bad American. Given enough time and a change of peer group, if that's where life leads you, you should be able to understand and discuss all facets of a subject from other viewpoints without emotion.

I do not enjoy that part of it. However, there is certainly exhileration in being shot at, but not hit.

I have NEVER initiated fire, even when I would have been justified under the Rules of Engagement, just returned it when necessary.

I have NEVER allowed any of my Marines to initiate fire, even when justified by the rules of engagement, and none of them have ever shot anyone who didn't shoot first. No Marine I have ever been around has ever brutalized anyone, even captured combatants who were just firing at them.

I am Infantry, 0369. I have been in for 15 years. I was an 0311 ( rifleman, and held every billet from rifleman to Platoon Sergeant), crosstrained as 0331 ( machinegunner ), 0351 ( assaultman, deals with explosives and breaching ), and 0352 ( anti-armour missleman ), before I became a SSgt and became an 0369, which is the designator for infantry Staff NCO in the Marine Corps. I have never cross-trained on the mortar system. I am also a maritime navigator, coxswain, marksmanship instructor, martial arts instructor, designated marksman, Non-lethal Weapons instructor, laser safety specialist, and a few other things I won't post here. I currently work at a higher headquarters doing a job I won't post here about.

As for the rest of your post, you have no clue what you are talking about.