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Re: Slaughter of Afghan civilians; Marine tribunal opens

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Why would I want to volunteer to put myself in a position of people desperately trying to kill me?
hmmmmm, the word ball-less comes to mind.
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Re: Slaughter of Afghan civilians; Marine tribunal opens

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Just those that get killed.
I laugh at the same people whom bitch, piss and moan about the military and yet these people are the same ones who would never help a fellow American.

One person on this form has confessed that he would allow a 80+ yr old man get pulverized just because he might get hurt.

(mommy mommy; "When will my sack drop"?)
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Re: Slaughter of Afghan civilians; Marine tribunal opens

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hmmmmm, the word ball-less comes to mind.
Don't confuse stupidity with courage. There are plenty of things I don't do for reasons other than fear. Same for other people. He asked for a reason to do it, not to list one possible reason not to do it.
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I laugh at the same people whom bitch, piss and moan about the military and yet these people are the same ones who would never help a fellow American.

One person on this form has confessed that he would allow a 80+ yr old man get pulverized just because he might get hurt.

(mommy mommy; "When will my sack drop"?)
Once again, give a reason to help the 80-year-old man out.
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Re: Slaughter of Afghan civilians; Marine tribunal opens

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SomeMarine;


On the face of it that sounds like you love the killing. What exactly is it that you do ?

Bear in mind that this thread is about the , apparent, cowardice and brutality of a bunch of apologies for soldiers whose chicken-shit escape plan involved the slaughter of a large number of innocent civilians. Further, that atrocity was smothered with lies to disguise it.

The accumulation of such incidents, along with many 'collateral damage' deaths and 'friendly fire' deaths has tarnished the reputation of the US military. Are you aware of that ?
What ???? I didn't know we were talking about Hamas? Silly me.
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Once again, give a reason to help the 80-year-old man out.
There is no reason you MUST,

But for those of us who are not unfeeling social darwinists, there is a reason one SHOULD.

Good samaritan behavior should not be enforced by law, but it should most certainly be upheld as a social virtue.
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Once again, give a reason to help the 80-year-old man out.

You're shitting me right.

If I'd have to explain it to ya, then you'd never understand.


Question: What if that 80 yr old man was your Grandfather?
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There is no reason you MUST,

But for those of us who are not unfeeling social darwinists, there is a reason one SHOULD.

Good samaritan behavior should not be enforced by law, but it should most certainly be upheld as a social virtue.
Sad that this would have to be explained.
That and you wrote it much better than I would have.
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There was nothing 'accidental ' about it. The US troops deliberately slaughtered civilians, according to the evidence if not the verdict.
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The US troops deliberately slaughtered civilians, according to the evidence if not the verdict.
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according to the evidence if not the verdict.
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evidence.... not ... verdict.
'Ello, whats all this then?
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I try to keep in mind that you insist that when your Pal-pals blow up men , women, children, and babies, you rush to their defense with " they had no other choice, as they were provoked". You can't have it both ways , moon.
You win the thread. I didn't have to read the other eight pages.
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You're shitting me right.

If I'd have to explain it to ya, then you'd never understand.


Question: What if that 80 yr old man was your Grandfather?
Depends on my feelings towards him. Given his relation, I would assume you mean we did not have bitter hatred toward one another, but rather had respect, enjoyment, etc... I'd help.
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Yep, that's what I thought. Keyboard activist and nothing more. More concerned about saving your own skin than getting the real truth.

Throw out some more rhetoric about baby killing though, it covers your cowardice nicely.
This was a long thread to begin with, and once I got to this, I had to say;
-Americano raised good points and was well thoughtful. There was neither weakness nor cowardise in his ideas.
-You raised good points and had first hand information to back up your view, but name calling, especially when it's baseless, get's you nowhere.

If Americano feels that war(which is hailed over a long ago) is fruitless and mearly a manifestation of a failed policy and stubborn resolution not to see U.S. made mistakes, he has good reasons to say so.
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Re: Slaughter of Afghan civilians; Marine tribunal opens

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Silly me.
Indeed.
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Re: Slaughter of Afghan civilians; Marine tribunal opens

SomeMarine;
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As for the rest of your post, you have no clue what you are talking about.
Oh, you mean this part-

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Bear in mind that this thread is about the , apparent, cowardice and brutality of a bunch of apologies for soldiers whose chicken-shit escape plan involved the slaughter of a large number of innocent civilians. Further, that atrocity was smothered with lies to disguise it.

The accumulation of such incidents, along with many 'collateral damage' deaths and 'friendly fire' deaths has tarnished the reputation of the US military. Are you aware of that ?
You should have listed Grade A willful ignorance along with your other qualifications. There are a great many other marines who are better trained than you, better qualified than you, of a higher rank than you, perhaps even better educated and braver than you who wouldn't ignore the obvious and widespread criticisms of the unacceptable behaviour and sullied reputations of some units of the Marine Corps. How come you think it's OK to say that these people 'don't know what they're talking about ' ?

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You win the thread. I didn't have to read the other eight pages.
Is that the same m.o. you use with the funny papers ?
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Re: Slaughter of Afghan civilians; Marine tribunal opens

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This was a long thread to begin with, and once I got to this, I had to say;
-Americano raised good points and was well thoughtful. There was neither weakness nor cowardise in his ideas.
-You raised good points and had first hand information to back up your view, but name calling, especially when it's baseless, get's you nowhere.

If Americano feels that war(which is hailed over a long ago) is fruitless and mearly a manifestation of a failed policy and stubborn resolution not to see U.S. made mistakes, he has good reasons to say so.
Courage is stand behind own opinions and reasoning. Wisdom is to think with own mind.
So, his potrayal of me and my friends as murderous, incompetent thugs, is perfectly fine, but when I say he portrays himself as nothing more than a keyboard activist, welll.... that is just way over the line?
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