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Re: Slaughter of Afghan civilians; Marine tribunal opens
well if you aint disgusted by cold blood murder, where do you get off getting superior and all? Heres your head, whats your hurry.
![]() then there is something about being self puffed, or is it best to just be a plain blowhard eh what?
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When a mature, trained, Infantry Platoon prepares for a deliberate action, almost everyone in the Platoon has a part in coming up with the scheme of maneuver. It helps build confidence in the plan, and helps train the juniors to take the place of the seniors, and helps in the maturing process of the juniors. In meeting engagements ( where the action isn't deliberate ), all in the platoon carry out things called " Immediate Action Drills" with absolutly no guidance given, that is the training we conduct. Each individual acts for the group, and is responsible for their actions when all is said and done. Junior ranking men are given wide latitude in the actions they take to accomplish the mission. The days of strict regimented actions have been gone for almost two decades. De-centralized command and control, along with maneuver warfare, is the way we operate now. Additionally, anyone has the right, at any time, to not follow an order they are given, especially if they feel it is unlawfull. You must have the COURAGE to stand behind your principle and voice your opinion, even when the pressure comes down. One of my primary jobs as a Marine SNCO is to temper the commands of my Officers, and ensure they don't step over the line in their zealousness, I enforce discipline within the platoon, regardless of rank. I have often counter-manded the orders of Officers. As far as willfully putting yourself into situations you don't like? Doesn't bother me. Just don't cast blame when you don't have the facts to do so. |
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If your "leadership" doesn't represent you, vote 'em out, move, or exercise what the Constitution says you can. |
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Re: Slaughter of Afghan civilians; Marine tribunal opens
The 101st is an Army outfit, not Marine.
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Re: Slaughter of Afghan civilians; Marine tribunal opens
? So, now troops are voted in?
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Apologies, Moon, should have said Americano. |
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Let me poise this question, yet unanswered by other military buffs, why are there no UK combat forces civilian killings? More experience in colonization efforts? |
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The British, in my experience and what other units who work with them say, do conduct aggressive patrolling. ( aggressive in the sense they actually get out there and do it every day, all day. Not in the sense they go out spoiling for a fight ) For the rest of the groups though, they DO NOT perform aggressive patrolling, and only go out when made to. Or, they are there as engineers. Or, they are in areas that are mostly friendly to them, which reduces their chances of fucking something up. Very few countries have Operational Areas they are directly responsible for, most countries are there in a support roles., and the vast majority of their forces never leave the FOBS. So, the heaviest burden comes down to America to bear, as it should. We have more folks there, and we are the ones that pushed to go in. |
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