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Re: Report; Zionist assassins bomb sleeping civilians.

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The 7,000 number is disputed by the United Nations and I am inclined to take their word before that of a pro-Israel source like "Jpost." Since disengagement 7,000 rockets have not been fired...
i am not. israel is engaged in a existential struggle with islam's claim that the area is part of the islamic waqf

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The Islamic Resistance Movement believes that the land of Palestine is an Islamic Waqf consecrated for future Moslem generations until Judgement Day. It, or any part of it, should not be squandered: it, or any part of it, should not be given up. Neither a single Arab country nor all Arab countries, neither any king or president, nor all the kings and presidents, neither any organization nor all of them, be they Palestinian or Arab, possess the right to do that. Palestine is an Islamic Waqf land consecrated for Moslem generations until Judgement Day. This being so, who could claim to have the right to represent Moslem generations till Judgement Day?
The Avalon Project : Hamas Covenant 1988

behind this islamic claim we have 57 members/observors of the I.O.C.

Currently, the OIC has 57 Member and 3 Observer States:


State Year of
accession
Afghanistan 1969
Albania, Republic of 1992
Algeria, People's Democratic Republic of 1969
Azerbaijan, Republic of 1991
Bahrain, State of 1970
Bangladesh, People's Republic of 1974
Benin, Republic of 1982
Brunei Dar-us-Salaam, Sultanate of 1984
Burkina Faso 1975
Cameroon, Republic of 1975
Chad, Republic of 1969
Comoros, Federal Islamic Republic of the 1976
Cote d'Ivoire, Republic of 2001
Djibouti, Republic of 1978
Egypt, Arab Republic of 1969
Gabon, Republic of 1974
Gambia, Republic of the 1974
Guinea, Republic of 1969
Guinea-Bissau, Republic of 1974
Guyana, Republic of 1998
Indonesia, Republic of 1969
Iran, Islamic Republic of 1969
Iraq, Republic of 1976

Jordan, Hashemite Kingdom of 1969
Kazakhstan, Republic of 1995
Kuwait, State of 1969
Kyrghyzistan, Republic of 1992
Lebanon, Republic of 1969
Libya, Socialist People's Libyan Arab Jamahiriya 1969
Malaysia 1969
Maldives, Republic of 1976
Mali, Republic of 1969
Mauritania, Islamic Republic of 1969
Morocco, Kingdom of 1969
Mozambique, Republic of 1994
Niger, Republic of 1969
Nigeria, Federal Republic of 1986
Oman, Sultanate of 1970
Pakistan, Islamic Republic of 1969
Palestine, State of 1969
Qatar, State of 1970
Saudi Arabia, Kingdom of 1969
Senegal, Republic of 1969
Sierra Leone, Republic of 1972
Somalia, Democratic Republic of 1969
Sudan, Republic of the 1969
Surinam, Republic of the 1996
Syrian Arab Republic 1970
Tajikistan, Republic of 1992
Togo, Republic of 1997
Tunisia, Republic of 1969
Turkey, Republic of 1969
Turkmenistan, Republic of 1992
Uganda, Republic of 1974
United Arab Emirates, State of 1970
Uzbekistan, Republic of 1995
Yemen, Republic of 1969

observer states:

Bosnia and Herzegovina,
Republic ofCenteral African Republic
Thailand, Kingdom of


all members of the great U.N., all promoting islamic interest at the great U.N. with this purpose:

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The Organization of the Islamic Conference (OIC) is an international organization grouping fifty seven States which have decided to pool their resources together, combine their efforts and speak with one voice to safeguard the interests and secure the progress and well-being of their peoples and of all Muslims in the world.
Overview

it is no surprise that israel has been sanctioned more than any other country in the world given the influence of such a large influential plurality

evidence toward that is this:

Conflicts since 1950 with over 10,000 Fatalities*

1 40,000,000 Red China, 1949-76 (outright killing, manmade famine, Gulag)
2 10,000,000 Soviet Bloc: late Stalinism, 1950-53; post-Stalinism, to 1987 (mostly Gulag)
3 4,000,000 Ethiopia, 1962-92: Communists, artificial hunger, genocides
4 3,800,000 Zaire (Congo-Kinshasa): 1967-68; 1977-78; 1992-95; 1998-present
5 2,800,000 Korean war, 1950-53
6 1,900,000 Sudan, 1955-72; 1983-2006 (civil wars, genocides)
7 1,870,000 Cambodia: Khmer Rouge 1975-79; civil war 1978-91
8 1,800,000 Vietnam War, 1954-75
9 1,800,000 Afghanistan: Soviet and internecine killings, Taliban 1980-2001
10 1,250,000 West Pakistan massacres in East Pakistan (Bangladesh 1971)
11 1,100,000 Nigeria, 1966-79 (Biafra); 1993-present
12 1,100,000 Mozambique, 1964-70 (30,000) + after retreat of Portugal 1976-92
13 1,000,000 Iran-Iraq-War, 1980-88
14 900,000 Rwanda genocide, 1994
15 875,000 Algeria: against France 1954-62 (675,000); between Islamists and the government 1991-2006 (200,000)
16 850,000 Uganda, 1971-79; 1981-85; 1994-present
17 650,000 Indonesia: Marxists 1965-66 (450,000); East Timor, Papua, Aceh etc, 1969-present (200,000)
18 580,000 Angola: war against Portugal 1961-72 (80,000); after Portugal's retreat (1972-2002)
19 500,000 Brazil against its Indians, up to 1999
20 430,000 Vietnam, after the war ended in 1975 (own people; boat refugees)
21 400,000 Indochina: against France, 1945-54
22 400,000 Burundi, 1959-present (Tutsi/Hutu)
23 400,000 Somalia, 1991-present
24 400,000 North Korea up to 2006 (own people)
25 300,000 Kurds in Iraq, Iran, Turkey, 1980s-1990s
26 300,000 Iraq, 1970-2003 (Saddam against minorities)
27 240,000 Colombia, 1946-58; 1964-present
28 200,000 Yugoslavia, Tito regime, 1944-80
29 200,000 Guatemala, 1960-96
30 190,000 Laos, 1975-90
31 175,000 Serbia against Croatia, Bosnia-Herzegovina, Kosovo, 1991-1999
32 150,000 Romania, 1949-99 (own people)
33 150,000 Liberia, 1989-97
34 140,000 Russia against Chechnya, 1994-present
35 150,000 Lebanon civil war, 1975-90
36 140,000 Kuwait War, 1990-91
37 130,000 Philippines: 1946-54 (10,000); 1972-present (120,000)
38 130,000 Burma/Myanmar, 1948-present
39 100,000 North Yemen, 1962-70
40 100,000 Sierra Leone, 1991-present
41 100,000 Albania, 1945-91 (own people)
42 80,000 Iran, 1978-79 (revolution)
43 75,000 Iraq, 2003-present (domestic)
44 75,000 El Salvador, 1975-92
45 70,000 Eritrea against Ethiopia, 1998-2000
46 68,000 Sri Lanka, 1997-present
47 60,000 Zimbabwe, 1966-79; 1980-present
48 60,000 Nicaragua, 1972-91 (Marxists/natives etc,)
49 51,000 Arab-Israeli conflict 1950-present
israel has been sanctioned by the great U.N.

Arab-Israeli Fatalities Rank 49th - article by Daniel Pipes

now there have been 65 [quote]UN Resolutions Against Israel, 1955-1992 for a conflict which is 49th on a list of 67 conflicts. i will leave it to the reader to decide whether or not in thomas friedman's words:

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Criticizing Israel is not anti-Semitic, and saying so is vile. But singling out Israel for opprobrium and international sanction out of all proportion to any other party in the Middle East is anti-Semitic, and not saying so is dishonest.
evidence of proportion would be a proportionality of condemnation of equal or more severe actions by other members of the great U.N.

list away and prove me wrong when i say the great U.N. is not an honest broker when it comes to israel/palestine.
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Re: Report; Zionist assassins bomb sleeping civilians.

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That's close enough to make my point.

Gaza is clearly one of the most densely populated places in the world; this is a fact regardless of whether they are ranked 1st or 3rd.
answer, the gaza is neither 1st nor 3rd. anyone with rudimentary reading skills would have read from an earlier post.

1 Monaco................. 23,660 per sq km
2 Macau S.A.R. (PRC)......17,699 per sq km
3 Hong Kong S.A.R. (PRC)....6,407 per sq km
4 Singapore 4,483,900 704...6,369 per sq km
5 Gibraltar (UK)............4,654 per sq kim
List of countries by population density - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

gaza 4117 per sq km.

a basic difference is that only gaza covets its neighbor's existence:

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Israel will exist and will continue to exist until Islam will obliterate it, just as it obliterated others before it
coupled with this racist epithet:

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"The Day of Judgement will not come about until Moslems fight the Jews (killing the Jews), when the Jew will hide behind stones and trees. The stones and trees will say O Moslems, O Abdulla, there is a Jew behind me, come and kill him. Only the Gharkad tree, (evidently a certain kind of tree) would not do that because it is one of the trees of the Jews." (related by al-Bukhari and Moslem).
The Avalon Project : Hamas Covenant 1988
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If reports from respected human rights organisations and even a ruling from the International Court of Justice is viewed as "pro-Palestinian" because they tell the truth I would have to question the motives of those whom view them as such...

I wasn't referring to your quotes...and since you mentioned it, I am already on record with you regards my feelings on some of the intl. court decisions workings etc.
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Re: Report; Zionist assassins bomb sleeping civilians.

returning to the putative "neutrality" of the great U.N.

there was a resolution of the assembly equating Zionism with racism:

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The full text of Resolution 3379:

3379 (XXX). Elimination of all forms of racial discrimination

The General Assemby,

Recalling its resolution 1904 (XVIII) of 20 November 1963, proclaiming the United Nations Declaration on the Elimination of All Forms of Racial Discrimination, and in particular its affirmation that "any doctrine of racial differentiation or superiority is scientifically false, morally condemnable, socially unjust and dangerous" and its expression of alarm at "the manifestations of racial discrimination still in evidence in some areas in the world, some of which are imposed by certain Governments by means of legislative, administrative or other measures",

Recalling also that, in its resolution 3151 G (XXVIII) of 14 December 1973, the General Assembly condemned, inter alia, the unholy alliance between South African racism and zionism,

Taking note of the Declaration of Mexico on the Equality of Women and Their Contribution to Development and Peace 1975, proclaimed by the World Conference of the International Women's Year, held at Mexico City from 19 June to 2 July 1975, which promulgated the principle that "international co-operation and peace require the achievement of national liberation and independence, the elimination of colonialism and neo-colonialism, foreign occupation, zionism, apartheid and racial discrimination in all its forms, as well as the recognition of the dignity of peoples and their right to self-determination",

Taking note also of resolution 77 (XII) adopted by the Assembly of Heads of State and Government of the Organization of African Unity at its twelfth ordinary session, held at Kampala from 28 July to 1 August 1975, which considered "that the racist regime in occupied Palestine and the racist regime in Zimbabwe and South Africa have a common imperialist origin, forming a whole and having the same racist structure and being organically linked in their policy aimed at repression of the dignity and integrity of the human being",

Taking note also of the Political Declaration and Strategy to Strengthen International Peace and Security and to Intensify Solidarity and Mutual Assistance among Non-Aligned Countries, adopted at the Conference of Ministers for Foreign Affairs of Non-Aligned Countries held at Lima from 25 to 30 August 1975, which most severely condemned zionism as a threat to world peace and security and called upon all countries to oppose this racist and imperalist ideology,

Determines that Zionism is a form of racism and racial discrimination.
one would have thought to reflect upon the fact that out of some 930,000 - 980,00 jews living in predominately muslim countries in '48 fewer than 3/10th of one percent remain, while in "palestine" there are some 10 times the number of "palestinian" arabs as when israel was created.

source

there were about 150,000 arabs in israel after the war of independence and today there are 1,500,000

and that reflection would have an effect upon the great U.N. polity. a not.

another observation that hints at a bias toward the arabs of palestine could be found in the institution called UNWRA which was set up to help the arab refugees of palestine.

one might say all refugees are equal in the eyes of the great U.N. but some refugees are more equal.

how interesting no words and no help about/for the jews living in arab lands for thousands of years at the great U.N. but countless resolutions supporting the palestinian refugee who by UNWRA's definition required two years residency and/or loss of livelihood. it needs to be noted that many in the ranks of palestinians refugee got that only because the great U.N.'s begging bowl was out.
another point of interest is the fact that the palestinian refugees is in the unique position of having a heritable status that can be married into!

in the light of such information i have to challenge the neutrality of the great U.N. on matters of the arab/israeli conflict.
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now for one more point contesting the "neutrality" of the great U.N.


"Map of Palestine," as displayed at the United Nations on Nov. 29, 2005.
[Kofi Annan and] Eliminating Israel Politely - article by Daniel Pipes

couple that imagery with a quote from the palestinian charter:
Quote:
Text of the Charter:
Article 1:
Palestine is the homeland of the Arab Palestinian people; it is an indivisible part of the Arab homeland, and the Palestinian people are an integral part of the Arab nation.

Article 2:
Palestine, with the boundaries it had during the British Mandate, is an indivisible territorial unit.
....
The Avalon Project : The Palestinian National Charter

and one can come to the conclusion that the great U.N. at the heighest levels is in lockstep with the palestinian charter. i.e. the nonexistence of israel.

i have now a project for the ill luminati so generous with their insight. would you explain the reference of jews to apes and pigs. some islamic references say jews are "apes and pigs" is this some form of Lamarckian evolution argument that the jews has devolved down the phylogenetic scale similar to how porpoise/whales returned to a water existence or is it simply racist.

perhaps a bit of moonshine from the ill luminati would shed light on this enigmatic topic so well documented in the koran.

[2:65] You have known about those among you who desecrated the Sabbath. We said to them, "Be you as despicable as apes."


[5:60] Shall I tell thee of a worse (case) than theirs for retribution with Allah ? (Worse is the case of him) whom Allah hath cursed, him on whom His wrath hath fallen and of whose sort Allah hath turned some to apes and swine, and who serveth idols. Such are in worse plight and further astray from the plain road.

[7:166] When they continued to defy the commandments, we said to them, "Be you despicable apes."

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And Allah is Able to do all things.
is found in various places in the koran, so there is no doubt allah is able to transmogrify a few jews into sub-phyletic entities as relative to the various homos, homo sapiens , homo erectus etc..
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Re: Report; Zionist assassins bomb sleeping civilians.

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What these means is that Israel does not have the right to indiscrimately bomb civilian areas or civilian targets under the guise that the presence of civilians does not render these areas immune from operations.
would the same criterea apply to islamic jihad suicide attacks?

Ayman al-Fayed was an arch terrorist of an organization:

List of Palestinian Islamic Jihad suicide attacks

Name Date Location Death Toll Notes
Taibe Bridge bombing January 30, 2001 Taibe 2 Injured
Hadera Central Bus Station bombing May 25, 2001 Central bus station, Hadera 45 injured 2 terrorists within a car bomb
Kfar Saba centre bombing April 22, 2001 Kfar Saba 1
Binyamina train station bombing July 16, 2001 Binyamina 2 3 more were injured critically
Sbarro restaurant massacre August 9, 2001 Downtown Jerusalem 15 Carried out together with HAMAS
Wall-Street Restaurant bombing August 12, 2001 Kiryat Motzkin 14 injured
Kibbutz Shluhot bombing October 7, 2001 Kibbutz Shluhot 1
Wadi Ara bombing November 29, 2001 Wadi Ara Junction 3 Carried out together with Al-Aqsa Martyrs' Brigades
Hilton Mamilla bombing December 5, 2001 Mamilla, Jerusalem 11 injured
Check Post Junction bombing December 9, 2001 Check Post Junction in the direction of Tel Hanan (Haifa area) 29 injured


[edit] 2002
Name Date Location Death Toll Notes
Old Central Bus Station massacres January 25, 2002 Tel Aviv 23 injured Double Suicide attack, together with Fatah
Egged bus 823 bombing March 20, 2002 Vadi Ara,Muzmuz Junction 5
Passover Massacre March 27, 2002 Netanya 30 Suicide attack in Passover ceremony in Park Hotel
Yagur Junction bombing April 10, 2002 Yagur 8
Egged bus 830 massacre June 5, 2002 Megiddo Junction 17 Bomber situated within a car bomb
Um El Phamem bombing September 5, 2002 Um El Phahem Junction in Vadi Ara 1
Egged bus 841 massacre October 21, 2002 Carcur Junction 14 2 Suicide bombers used a bomb jeep with 100 KG TNT


[edit] 2003
Name Date Location Death Toll Notes
London Cafe bombing March 30, 2003 Netanya 54 injured
"HaAmakim Shopping mall bombing" May 19, 2003 Afula 3 Attributed to Hamas
Sdei Trumot bombing June 1, 2003 [[Moshav Sdei Trumot 1
Kfar Yabetz bombing July 7, 2003 Kfar Yabetz 1
Maxim restaurant suicide bombing October 4, 2003 Haifa 21


[edit] 2005
Name Date Location Death Toll Notes
Stage Club bombing February 25, 2005 Tel Aviv sea promenade 5 Carried out together with Al-Aqsa Martyrs' Brigades and with Hizballah involvement
Kenyon HaSharon bombing July 12, 2005 Netanya 5
Central Bus Station Beer Sheva bombing August 28, 2005 Beer Sheva 50 injured, 2 critically Carried out together with Al-Aqsa Martyrs' Brigades
Hadera Market bombing October 26, 2005 Hadera 6
Netanya bombing December 5, 2005 Netanya 5


[edit] 2006
Name Date Location Death Toll Notes
Old Central Bus Station massacres January 19, 2006 Tel Aviv 15 injured
Old Central Bus Station massacres April 17, 2006 Tel Aviv 11 Carried out together with Al-Aqsa Martyrs' Brigades[1]


[edit] 2007
Name Date Location Death Toll Notes
Eilat bakery bombing January 29, 2007 Eilat 3 Both Islamic Jihad and al-Aqsa Martyrs Brigates claim joint responsibility

List of Palestinian Islamic Jihad suicide attacks - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

also israel was not indescriminate in the attack, it was a targeted killing of a terrorist who used his own family as human sandbags. can the same be said about the 30 suicide bombing of the islamic jihad which resulted in the death of 162 israeli civilians?

add to the suicide bombing islamic jihad's envovlement in the daily rocket attacks against israeli civilians.

once again:
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"Criticizing Israel is not anti-Semitic, and saying so is vile. But singling out Israel for opprobrium and international sanction out of all proportion to any other party in the Middle East is anti-Semitic, and not saying so is dishonest.
now i will await your listing of proportional criticism of islamic jihad's suicide attacks against israel which resulted in 162 civilian deaths. i know that moon will not disappoint me on this proportional fairness issue.
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nobody;
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i know that moon will not disappoint me on this proportional fairness issue.
Oh, moon's got a few disappointments in store for you , pal, no worries.

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anyone with rudimentary reading skills would have read from an earlier post.
Here, get your rudimentary reading skills around this;

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The Gaza Ghetto: U.S.-Backed Humanitarian Crisis Deepens
February 17, 2008.

Gaza is one of the most densely populated places in the world and is home to around 1.5 million Palestinians who struggle against overwhelming levels of poverty and Israeli violence.

http://www.alternet.org/audits/77285/
This is current, you might notice. So, if you want to convince the world at large that Gaza is not one of the most densely populated places on earth then you better start today, because you've got an awful lot of people to disseminate your new news to. I won't hold you up.

Let me know when you concede that Gaza is one of the most densely-populated places on earth.
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i am not. israel is engaged in a existential struggle with islam's claim that the area is part of the islamic waqf
Do you know that every link you have provided to substantiate your silly claims have come from Zionists, Zionist Pro-Israel websites or Wikipedia. You cannot come up with one credible scholarly or authoritative source to substantiate a single one of your claims! Remember what I said in post # 100 folks when I went after Nobody's source...

"The above website is a part of a Zionist media outfit that is openly pro-Israel! Is it not strange how Zionists cannot defend Israel without using Zionist propaganda or Wikipedia? Even "nobody" likely knew his source was shoddy as he chose to omit the link to the source..." - Frank

Amazing how I call them huh!?

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list away and prove me wrong when i say the great U.N. is not an honest broker when it comes to israel/palestine.
1) In 1947 the United Nations Partition Plan (UNGA Resolution 181) carved up Palestine giving the Arab majority a minority of the land.

2) The UN Security Council has refused to enact any UN Resolutions under Chapter 7 of the UN Charter even though they have conceded repeatedly that Israel has engaged in war crimes in violation of the 4th Geneva Conventions.

3) In July of 2004 the International Court of Justice ruled that the Jewish settlements in the Palestinian territories were illegal; the UN Security Council has done NOTHING to heavily sanction Israel for their continued settlement building.

4) As a part of the quarter the United Nations has remained silent while the United States has levied sanctions against the elected government of the occupied Palestinian people while Israel has gotten away scot free with war crimes.

International Court of Justice Ad Hoc Judge Dr. John Dugard said the following about the UN:

The humanitarian situation in both the West Bank and Gaza is appalling. At least 4 out of 10 Palestinians live under the official poverty line of less than US$ 2.10 a day and unemployment stands at least 40 per cent. To aggravate matters, the public sector, which accounts for 23 per cent of total employment in the Palestinian territory, is employed but unpaid as a result of the withholding of funds owed to the Palestinian Authority by the Government of Israel, amounting to $50 to 60 million per month. In addition, the United States and the European Union have cut off funds to the Palestinian Authority on the ground that Hamas, the party elected to Government in January 2006, is listed under their laws as a terrorist organization. Non-governmental organizations working with the Palestinian Authority have likewise been affected by restrictions on funding.

In effect, the Palestinian people have been subjected to economic sanctions -the first time an occupied people have been so treated. This continues, despite the fact that Israel is itself in violation of numerous Security Council and General Assembly resolutions and has failed to implement the advisory opinion of the International Court of Justice of 9 July 2004.

The Quartet itself has no regard for the advisory opinion and fails even to refer to it in its public utterances. This has substantially undermined the reputation of the United Nations in the Occupied Palestinian Territory. Although Palestinians have a high regard for dedicated and committed United Nations workers on the ground, they have serious misgivings about the role of the United Nations in New York and Geneva.


{snip}

The image and reputation of the United Nations has, sadly, suffered in the occupied Palestinian territories. While there is high regard for dedicated and committed United Nations workers on the ground, the same cannot be said for the United Nations in New York and Geneva. Palestinians are sensitive to the failure of high-ranking United Nations officials to meaningfully visit the region and the inability of the Security Council to take action to protect human rights, as recently evidenced by the veto of an even-handed draft Security Council resolution on Gaza on 12 July 2006. The visit of Jan Egeland, Under-Secretary-General for Humanitarian Affairs and United Nations Emergency Relief Coordinator, on 25 July has no doubt done much to restore the image of the United Nations in the region. The concern of the Human Rights Council will also be welcomed, as will the statements by a number of special procedures mandate-holders. The United Nations needs to show more concern for the human rights of Palestinians. Reports such as the present one record the violations of human rights and humanitarian law, but real action on the part of the Organization is essential at this troubled time.

A/HRC/2/5 of 5 September 2006

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answer, the gaza is neither 1st nor 3rd. anyone with rudimentary reading skills would have read from an earlier post.

1 Monaco................. 23,660 per sq km
2 Macau S.A.R. (PRC)......17,699 per sq km
3 Hong Kong S.A.R. (PRC)....6,407 per sq km
4 Singapore 4,483,900 704...6,369 per sq km
5 Gibraltar (UK)............4,654 per sq kim
List of countries by population density - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

gaza 4117 per sq km.
Apparently you lack such rudimentary reading skills! There is no 4,117 number on that Wikipedia list! And while you are at it show me where the "Gaza Strip" is located on that list!

It is is bad enough you use an unscholarly source like Wikipedia in the first place but you accuse others of lacking reading skills when you obviously did not read your own source!
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The latest Zionist missile strikes have been equally callous in their contempt for civilians. The m.o. is instantly recognisable.
Evidently not, if you're still clinging to the notion that this was a missile strike.
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also israel was not indescriminate in the attack, it was a targeted killing of a terrorist who used his own family as human sandbags. can the same be said about the 30 suicide bombing of the islamic jihad which resulted in the death of 162 israeli civilians?
Give me a break more Palestinian non-hostiles were killed by Israel in the last 7 years than Israeli's have lost to the Palestinians in the last 20 combined and that is including both civilian and military.

B'Tselem - Statistics - Fatalities

Second; I read your Wikipedia piece on attacks by Islamic Jihad and I noticed something quite interesting. The sources Wikipedia used to compile this article were largely taken from the ISRAELI government!

I would hardly trust the words of the IDF or the Israeli Ministry of Foreign Affairs considering that they are openly biased parties.

P.S. (Robert) "Johnstons" Archive strikes me as being a very pro-Israel site and for obvious reasons. This was another source used by the Wikipedia article; not one substantiative authoritative remotely-unbiased source was used by Wikipedia in this article; not one!

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i have now a project for the ill luminati so generous with their insight. would you explain the reference of jews to apes and pigs. some islamic references say jews are "apes and pigs" is this some form of Lamarckian evolution argument that the jews has devolved down the phylogenetic scale similar to how porpoise/whales returned to a water existence or is it simply racist.
Is this any worse than the racism and bigotry Israel has taught to its school children year after year?

Israeli Textbooks and Children’s Literature Promote Racism and Hatred Toward Palestinians and Arabs

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Palestine - Israel Journal of Politics, Economics and Culture: Orginal Article

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Palestine - Israel Journal of Politics, Economics and Culture: About Prof. Bar-Tal
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Re: Report; Zionist assassins bomb sleeping civilians.

i would like to than frank for this introducing this:

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Here, get your rudimentary reading skills around this;


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The Gaza Ghetto: U.S.-Backed Humanitarian Crisis Deepens
February 17, 2008.

Gaza is one of the most densely populated places in the world and is home to around 1.5 million Palestinians who struggle against overwhelming levels of poverty and Israeli violence.

AlterNet: ForeignPolicy: The Gaza Ghetto: U.S.-Backed Humanitarian Crisis Deepens
what no mention of palestinian violence against israel!!?? pray tell, is this a neutral quote from a neutral source??

you forget the the bugeoning gazan industry in rockets/mortar bombs/snipings/suicide bombers.

you forget the use of sewer pipes given the the eunuch for sewage being converted into kassams rockets/ the use of fertilizer into explosives and of course the use of israeli supplied electricity supplied to this industrial undertakings!!

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Is this any worse than the racism and bigotry Israel has taught to its school children year after year?

Israeli Textbooks and Children’s Literature Promote Racism and Hatred Toward Palestinians and Arabs
i answer this:

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Arabic Video Shows Three-Year-Old Who Says Jews are “Apes and Pigs”


Arabic Video Shows Three-Year-Old Who Says Jews are “Apes and Pigs”

now i showed you mine, now show yours or are you suffering from inadequacy. i would like something of 'equal value" to my display of my wares.
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Re: Report; Zionist assassins bomb sleeping civilians.

Israeli school textbooks as well as children’s storybooks, according to recent academic studies and surveys, portray Palestinians and Arabs as “murderers,” “rioters,” “suspicious,” and generally backward and unproductive. Direct delegitimization and negative stereotyping of Palestinians and Arabs are the rule rather than the exception in Israeli schoolbooks.

perhaps they were referring to president musharraf's quote:

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Today we (muslims)are the poorest, the most illiterate, the most backward, the most unhealthy, the most un-enlightened, the most deprived, and the weakest of all the human race
President Musharraf

[url]http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/1824455.stm[/quote]

now are not the arab muslims a subgroup of the universal set muslims thus subject to musharrah's claim??
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Re: Report; Zionist assassins bomb sleeping civilians.

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i would like to than frank for this introducing this:

what no mention of palestinian violence against israel!!?? pray tell, is this a neutral quote from a neutral source??
For the simple reason that Palestinian non-hostiles were killed by Israel in the last 7 years than Israeli's have lost to the Palestinians in the last 20 combined and that is including both civilian and military.

Why would I give equivalence of guilt considering the disproportionate casualty numbers and the conditions that caused them?

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you forget the the bugeoning gazan industry in rockets/mortar bombs/snipings/suicide bombers.
Since 2005 The Gazans have fired approximately 2,600 rockets into Israel while Israel fired 14,000 shells into Gaza in 2006 alone according to UN statistics.

Second, Israel still controls the Gaza Strip. Israel is the cause of their own misfortune by continuing their domination, strangulation and starvation of Gaza.

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you forget the use of sewer pipes given the the eunuch for sewage being converted into kassams rockets/ the use of fertilizer into explosives and of course the use of israeli supplied electricity supplied to this industrial undertakings!!
I could just imagine the Zionist website you grabbed this from; is this your way of justifying Israels illegal collective punishment by destroying the electrical platforms of Gaza?

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now i showed you mine, now show yours or are you suffering from inadequacy. i would like something of 'equal value" to my display of my wares.
I think an Israel university professor who offered an indepth analysis of systemic Israeli texbook racism over several decades is good enough. However, since you seem to respond better to visual stimuli here you go:

YouTube - "Palestinains Are Animals" - IDF Soldier Speaks.
YouTube - British film crew threatened by jewish settler in Hebron
YouTube - Settlers throw stones at woman and baby
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