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Re: Gaza medical situation heads for disaster

no just explain the question..I am but a simple man....easliy confused...
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Re: Gaza medical situation heads for disaster

Would more Jews have made Aliyah had there been no conflict?
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I would think, yes. I see your point.
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Re: Gaza medical situation heads for disaster

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I would think, yes. I see your point.
Peace for Israel is more important than to the Palestinians.
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Peace for Israel is more important than to the Palestinians.
under what context? Israel sees it from their angle, and obviously their idea of peace, that is the parameters of Palestine and its structure, is what dictates their view....when you say peace is more important to Israel than Palestinians, I'd say maybe, depending on what they see as their view of what would constitute the structure of peace.
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under what context? Israel sees it from their angle, and obviously their idea of peace, that is the parameters of Palestine and its structure, is what dictates their view....when you say peace is more important to Israel than Palestinians, I'd say maybe, depending on what they see as their view of what would constitute the structure of peace.
Longer the conflict is kept up the less aliyah the quicker the demographic will work in Palestinian favour.
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so you wish for the Palestinians in the "occupied territories” to explode a pop bomb and eventually secure such an advantage they will destroy Israel? And /or is that the plan for Israeli’s palast. As well?
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so you wish for the Palestinians in the "occupied territories” to explode a pop bomb and eventually secure such an advantage they will destroy Israel? And /or is that the plan for Israeli’s palast. As well?
If you are cognisant with the Or report you will see that the Palestinian citizens of Israel have identified themselves with the Palestinian cause.The Issies will be wassies.
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yes I thought so, but wanted to be sure I understood correctly....so, what do you see as Palestinian Israeli’s expectations as they level up pop. and Knesset influence etc.?
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yes I thought so, but wanted to be sure I understood correctly....so, what do you see as Palestinian Israeli’s expectations as they level up pop. and Knesset influence etc.?
Within Israel the tipping point has been suggested at a 28% minority of Palestinian citizens of Israel.
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Re: Gaza medical situation heads for disaster

and? what do you expect or wish to happen?
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and? what do you expect or wish to happen?
Why do you always try to put emotive words in????? It's that little bit of trying to put words in peoples mouths again.
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emotive words ? that assumes I think, that I am attempting to elicit a specific type of response...no, I am just asking where that would lead in your opinion....what do you expect to happen at that point or would see as abeneficial course of action.....why are you jumpy?
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I had to find this in a Chinese news publication for some reason; quite an accurate assessment of the situation.
The logical thing to do in this case is to start building a rocket.
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emotive words ? that assumes I think, that I am attempting to elicit a specific type of response...no, I am just asking where that would lead in your opinion....what do you expect to happen at that point or would see as a beneficial course of action.....why are you jumpy?
Then split the loaded emotive crap out of the questions.
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