Kasparov opposes I guess, I said "does not support", at least once in a while one can read critics about Putin in Russian newspapers,

I can not argue about "miracle", I believe he did, especially after Yeltzin,

but can you believe that Saakashvili also did miracle in Georgia? especially after spineless Shevardnadze? although there is no way to compare miracles in Russia, country of nuclear power and oil and gas and such a poor country as Georgia is, but yes, HE REALLY DID.

and even now, you are doing exactly what I wrote: because he did miracle, he was only "wrong" in Chechnya? you are comparing shelling chechnya for few years with bombing one city (which were aware of upcoming and asked to evacuate women and children) for few hours, and one is criminal and another was "wrong"?

let's be clear, either both are criminals, or both were "wrong"

your choice.

Miracles ... he certainly gave Russia back its pride ... but are you really willing to take the risk?

Some history for you

Adolf Hitler - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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yes he really did, but pride has ended up with skinheads and killings of non-Russians on the streets. another reason to be proud.

the talk is not about pride, the talk is about economical development after 10 years of regression.

Hitler rose on just the same mix of economical success and staunch nationalist rhetoric. I realize it may not be simple to find a balanced source of info in Russia, but you might make the effort to compare his rise to power with the present Russian hero.

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this comparison is absolutely idiotic, because Putin left the presidential post.
Plus Putin don't blame any ethnic group. He is absolute internationalist.

If you didn't notice i know not only Russian language.

A couple of new developments:

Wow, somebody actually wants to talk about the status of the separatist regions that this conflict was supposed to be about. Also, no mention yet about the fate of the Georgian President.

I’m curious what some of the European members here make of this development.

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recalling how people with Georgian names were hunted and caught on the streets of Moscow, and later transported into Georgia in cargo airplanes like cattle, "absolute" sounds little a bit "non-absolute".

Bullshit. Illegal immigrants were withdrawn, not Russian citizens of Georgian origin.

Yeah, that was reaaaally significant, wasn't it?

Tell that to the Chechens, to the Georgians ... btw, curious to learn more about this 'intenationalism' of Putin



Good for you, but knowledge of the English language is NO guarantee whatsoever for a certain level of intellectual development.

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Russian President Dmitri Medvedev and French President Nicolas Sarkozy on Aug. 12 held a joint press conference at which they announced six principles of conflict resolution to guide the "road to normalcy" in Georgia, Gazeta reported. The principles are: not resorting to the use of force, definitively ceasing hostilities, allowing access to humanitarian aid, returning Georgian forces to their bases, returning Russian forces to their positions before the conflict, and beginning an international debate on the status of South Ossetia and Abkhazia.
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Wow, wow, wait!

"beginning an international debate on the status of South Ossetia and Abkhazia" this is what georgian side has been asking for many years and what Russia opposed all the time! and now it has been provided as Russian initiative?

Thank you Russia, after 15 years of blood you agree to listen to others?

and what about peacekeepers? if Russian forces remain peacekeepers than it's dead talk. for all these years they have turned blind eye on atrocities abkhazians committed against small enclave of Georgians in Abkhazia, they are peacekeepers as I am last emperor of China.

Comrade, it's not about "who", it's about "how"!

That problem had been identified rather early on:

An alternative is in the works:

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Saakasjvili is claiming that 2 of the 4 journalists killed so far were aimed at intentionally, and that the injuries of others were intentional too. The 2 journalist were on the central square in Gori yesterday (11th) evening when Georgian troops had already pulled out.

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CYDdharta thanks for this info


The European Union is considering sending a peacekeeping force to Georgia's separatist regions of Abkhazia and South Ossetia if all parties to the conflict in the country agree to the deployment, French President Nicolas Sarkozy said Aug. 12. Peacekeeping operations in the two areas are currently manned by Russian troops. Russian President Dmitri Medvedev said he will not withdraw the Russian peacekeepers

Of course they will not, they are afraid that international peacekeepers will not let Abkhazians kill Georgian civilians in Gali. few hundreds of georgians died in this small, Georgian enclave since war had ended. it's controlled by Abkhazian criminals, they demand from this people to pay ransom for letting them to breath. and Georgians can not protect them - there are "peacekeepers" between.