Well, Steve is the one who said it is not covered.

When did I say that?

When did I say anything about pay and allowances?

Do you understand what "pay" and "allowances" and "other benefits" are with respect to the military?

If you'd be so kind to explain them, as you understand them, that will help to move this discussion along.

I suspect you'll not respond favorably to that, either, instead opting to dodge and try to nit-pick at something you know absolutely nothing about...

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Well, here is how the conversation went. Italicized parts are added by me to explain how the words relate to the general discussion.

Slon: "As for reimbursements (that is, reimbursements for the expenses incurred while traveling according to US military orders), it would depend on the details of the contract the troops signed with them military."

Steve to Slon: "The troops don't sign a contract with the military regarding monetary reimbursements... (read: the expenses I am discussing)"

Slon to Steve: "And it's (the aforementioned expenses I'm discussing) not part of any contract that the soldiers sign when they sign up for military service?"

Steve to Slon: Nope... (that's where you said it)

Slon to Steve: "Soldier expenses when not within the military infrastructure are not mentioned, at least according to you."

Mrs. M to Slon: "I think that should cover it.... (the aforementioned expenses)"

Slon to Mrs. M: "Well, Steve is the one who said it (the aforementioned expenses) is not covered."

Steve to Slon: "When did I say that?"

Slon, travel pay isn't specified in the contract but it is understood and I think that is what Steve was trying to get you to understand.

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look man, here it is, laid out for you.

You join the military. They need you somewhere. They cut some orders telling you to go there.

The government makes your travel arrangemnets and pays for them. You get a ticket to fly/drive/train/ship.

You sit your ass in the seat.

You arrive where you need to be.

Now, as far as excess baggage is concerned: The airlines have a set amount most individuals can bring on the plane. Some companies/government entities have contracts allowing more, because sometimes you have to travel with a LOT of shit.

For anything over the limit, the government pays for, and the airplane allows it on.

That's because your arguement is retarded and petulant.

how old is Slon, and what does he do for a living, anyone know?

You are not speaking intelligently. What you are doing is displaying your lack of reading comprehension.

Many here have told you the reality, you are not comprehending. Instead, you are glancing at the facts, and twisting them to fit into your little fantasy.

Read and comprehend, if you can not comprehend, ask a specific question for a specific clarifying answer.

CYD, here's that link, sorry about that.

Travel | American Airlines gets bad rap on military-fee rumor | Seattle Times Newspaper

I was not referring to travel pay alone, but rather to the clause generalizing about expense reimbursements.

Why do you assume that?Glancing over what facts? Twisting what?

Seems to me you spent a whole lot of time talking about travel reimbursement! Either way though, the contract says nothing about any reimbursements but it's generally understood by the educated enlistees that the government is responsible for getting soldiers from point A to point B, just as it's understood that when the soldier signs the dotted line, he becomes the property of the United States Government.

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"Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in an attractive and well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways - Chardonnay in one hand - chocolate in the other - body thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and screaming "WOO HOO, What a Ride!"

Because that is what the article addresses. However, if you read my posts, you would know that I am for expenses in general, whether they be specifically listed in the contract or referred to in general.It might be understood, but mutual understanding (or lack thereof) is not the reason I have given for my support of the contract text I suggested.

Whatever, Slon...you seem to want to "fix" that which is not broken.

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"Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in an attractive and well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways - Chardonnay in one hand - chocolate in the other - body thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and screaming "WOO HOO, What a Ride!"

Sorry Slon, but I honestly have to ask, whether you have any mental health problems and if anyone has diagnosed you with some sort of autismn, ADHS or stuff like this before?

I mean you seem to get yourself totaly obsessed about discussing what there should be in a enlistment contract, instead of seeing the greater "pic.

Just like everything else in life, the military is based on rather well known principles/laws/customs (well known as provided/proven by the "expierences" of e.g. Steve).

So why do you continue to shit about it for so many endless thread pages?

What's so damn difficult to understand about it, hell we aren't talking about rocket science?

Anyway honestly as an ex draftie I can't remember, if I ever signed something like a "contract" at all. Hell I was medically tested and asked if I "wanted" to serve, answered "Yes," a few weeks later had my train ticket and had to show up at an unknown military base at a given time.

It was as simple as that and as millions of citizens before me, I accepted the process and went through it. Why (according to you) should there be a need to sign a million of papers, when it worked fine for so many drafties before me, for so long?

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