'Cause trouble' ? Is that how you describe attempting to repel a non-muslim invasion and to avenge murdered relatives and friends ?

Besides, the 'borders' imposed upon the tribal areas are synthetic and disputed. ' Ducking across ' them might mean visiting one's grandmother with a fresh supply of dum-dum bullets and goat's cheese. The rules that UN nations devise and enforce can hardly be expected to apply to nomadic peoples along their age-old routes.

Well, if they are synthetic and disputed, then how do we know US forces ever even crossed them?

Or are they "synthetic and disputed" when excusing your side, and clearly delineated when condemning the other side?

Matt

The Chairman of the US Joint Chiefs of Staff is, by this evidence, a liar.

Bah, it's a "synthetic and disputed" border - the strike must have occurred on the Afghani side.

Matt

Sorry, but this is just rot.

Synthetic and Disputed borders? WTF? These borders were drawn up decades ago and in no sense have they ever been a source of conflict.

Further, these people arent nomadic. The may have sheep/ goats moving around various pastures but thats not nomadism.

Dont stretch the facts more than you need to.

But anyway, you seem to want the borders to apply when its the or UN coalition crossing them but when its Pakistani citizens its doesnt apply and they become more vague. Thats just useless.

Bollox. 16,000 British and Indian troops were killed attempting to impose 'empire' during the Afghan Wars. The Khyber Pass has been a major thoroughfare for nomads since the start of recorded history. The Pashtun go where they please and will always resist the governments on both sides of the 'border'. They've fought Alexander the Great, Persian, Mongol, and Tartar armies. They've assimilated Scythians, White Huns, Seljuks, Tartars, Mongols, Sassanians, Turks, Mughals and Durranis. Guantanamo George and his Armoured Asses will hardly make a paragraph in their history books. They'll still be there when new rulers of the UNited Nations plant their synthetic borders somewhere else.
You clearly know nothing about the region nor its history. Your comments are ripe codswallop.

Liars. Plain and simple. I think they're known as 'infidels' in the local parlance.

Bah, it's a "Synthetic and Disputed" border - there's no reason to believe the strike actually occurred in Pakistan, since the location of the border is in "dispute" due to it's "synthetic" nature.

Matt

What's the difference between a terrorist and a civilian?

A terrorist is alive.

They become civilians when they're dead.

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You sound like the guy that said the WTC was full of terrorists.

Actually I do know the history of the area and I do know of the resistance of the tribes in the area.

If you think the borders are synthetic and disputed then what is your basis for compliant when the US crosses that border in pursuit of Taliban? International law?

"Synthetic and disupted", Moon? Aren't you the same guy raving in another thread under War & Peace about US troops violating the sacrosanct inviolable sovereign territory of Pakistan? Are you trying to have it both ways and in the middle again??

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That's two of you unable to comprehend how the local tribespeople view the 'borders'. Once again, the Afghan government has its view of where the borders are, the Pakistani government has its view of where the borders are and the local people, the Pashtun , think that both sets of bureaucrats are emasculated wankers .

My own opinion of where the borders are means nothing to anybody. Neither does yours.

so you are saying everybody who died in the twin towers on 9/11 was actually a terrorist??

Andrew

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If you're a college prof. maybe yes.

But I was speaking about all of these "Civilians attending weddings" that get killed living in terrorist staging areas on the Afghanistan/Pakistan border.

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