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Old 10-01-2008
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Re: UN confirms 90 civilians killed in US airstrike

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If you're a college prof. maybe yes.
Even a conservative college prof?

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But I was speaking about all of these "Civilians attending weddings" that get killed living in terrorist staging areas on the Afghanistan/Pakistan border.

So attending a wedding somehow makes them a terrorist?

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Re: UN confirms 90 civilians killed in US airstrike

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So attending a wedding somehow makes them a terrorist?

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Weddings lead to sex, and sex leads to brown kids. Where do you think terrorists come from?
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Re: UN confirms 90 civilians killed in US airstrike

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Even a conservative college prof?




So attending a wedding somehow makes them a terrorist?

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Ever wonder why the wedding excuse has been used so much?

Every wonder why we never find soldiers bodies instead of civilians?

They figure people like you will fall for it.

It's always 90 civilians when in fact it is 78 terrorists and their friends and family members who support them getting killed.

When the MSM reports a strike against a terrorist camp it's never a good kill, it's always civilians. You see they hate the military, so they'll never report the truth.

But I guess you wouldn't understand that.
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Re: UN confirms 90 civilians killed in US airstrike

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Ever wonder why the wedding excuse has been used so much?
A wedding is typically a large gathering of people, which i bet to US planes and their trigger happy doped up pilots might appear to be a gathering of terrorists. im sure when you are on drugs itchin' for a kill they can quite easily convince themselves of that.

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Every wonder why we never find soldiers bodies instead of civilians?
Ever wonder why Afghanistan gets progressively worse instead of better?

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They figure people like you will fall for it.
Don't you want me to fall for the 'all gatherings of brown people in a desert are gatherings of terrorists' theory?

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It's always 90 civilians when in fact it is 78 terrorists and their friends and family members who support them getting killed.

When the MSM reports a strike against a terrorist camp it's never a good kill, it's always civilians. You see they hate the military, so they'll never report the truth.
Hmm, so if an insurgent were to kill the friends or family members of american soldiers its a 'good kill' in your view? If some Afghanis or Iraqis were to come to the US and bomb a soldiers wedding that would be legitimate?

The MSM reported lies in favor of military action right before the war? How do you reconcile that with your conspiracy theory?

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But I guess you wouldn't understand that.
I doubt i will ever understand hysterical conspiracy theories.

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Re: UN confirms 90 civilians killed in US airstrike

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A wedding is typically a large gathering of people, which i bet to US planes and their trigger happy doped up pilots might appear to be a gathering of terrorists. im sure when you are on drugs itchin' for a kill they can quite easily convince themselves of that.

Ever wonder why Afghanistan gets progressively worse instead of better?

Don't you want me to fall for the 'all gatherings of brown people in a desert are gatherings of terrorists' theory?

Hmm, so if an insurgent were to kill the friends or family members of american soldiers its a 'good kill' in your view? If some Afghanis or Iraqis were to come to the US and bomb a soldiers wedding that would be legitimate?

The MSM reported lies in favor of military action right before the war? How do you reconcile that with your conspiracy theory?

I doubt i will ever understand hysterical conspiracy theories.

Andrew
I think if any pilot was trigger-happy he wouldn't be flying anymore. That kind of thing can end a pilots career.

You seem to have a general dislike for the military establishment.

Journalists don't think anyone killed in Iraq or Afghanistan is enemy combatants. Since they don't wear uniforms they take the predictable route and call them all civilians.

Last year 3rd Armored Divsion said it was involved in an attack against a terror cell in Mosul. They had the building surrounded and were calling for the insurgents to surrender. They said through an interpreter that they had wounded that they wanted medical treatment. They sent in a medic and an interpreter and both were shot in the head.

They decided not to fuck around anymore and hosed down the building with heavy weapons. Then some reporters started accusing them of killing innocent civilians and that they didn't give them enough of a chance to surrender.

So you see I don't give a flying fuck what you think because I know different.

The lies you say the press reported can't be classified as lies because nobody has proven that WMDs weren't in Iraq. Everyone including Obama and all of the rest of the Democrats made speeches that stated that they believed they were there. So who was lying.
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Re: UN confirms 90 civilians killed in US airstrike

Mudwhistle,

Stop justifying the death of those in WTC on 9/11 cos according to your logic alot of them would have had connections, family or friends, of soldiers in the US Army. You classed that region in Afghanistan as "terrorist area" and everyone is bound to be a "terrorist" around there? So by this logic, again I guess you are also classing America as a terrorist country and any Afghani/Iraqi etc can bomb whoever the hell they want in there??

Get a grip lad..... I know you want to justify the killing of civilians, but you are not goin to get away with that.

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Re: UN confirms 90 civilians killed in US airstrike

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Another U.S. strike in Pakistan?

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ISLAMABAD: Yet another missile strike by suspected U.S. drone in a Pakistani tribal region has killed at least six people.


The Hindu : International : Another U.S. strike in Pakistan?
There are reports of a much more lethal illegal strike inside Pakistan today. The US is heading for a fall.
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Re: UN confirms 90 civilians killed in US airstrike

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There are reports of a much more lethal illegal strike inside Pakistan today. The US is heading for a fall.
Let me get this straight...we killed a target in Pakistan, where the Taliban is approximately hiding, and so we're losing?

With your twisted logic, Georgia devastated the Russian army...
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Re: UN confirms 90 civilians killed in US airstrike

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I think if any pilot was trigger-happy he wouldn't be flying anymore. That kind of thing can end a pilots career.

You seem to have a general dislike for the military establishment.

Journalists don't think anyone killed in Iraq or Afghanistan is enemy combatants. Since they don't wear uniforms they take the predictable route and call them all civilians.

Last year 3rd Armored Divsion said it was involved in an attack against a terror cell in Mosul. They had the building surrounded and were calling for the insurgents to surrender. They said through an interpreter that they had wounded that they wanted medical treatment. They sent in a medic and an interpreter and both were shot in the head.

They decided not to fuck around anymore and hosed down the building with heavy weapons. Then some reporters started accusing them of killing innocent civilians and that they didn't give them enough of a chance to surrender.

So you see I don't give a flying fuck what you think because I know different.

The lies you say the press reported can't be classified as lies because nobody has proven that WMDs weren't in Iraq. Everyone including Obama and all of the rest of the Democrats made speeches that stated that they believed they were there. So who was lying.
Thats an interesting story. Got a link?

So far its pretty stupid to send in a medic without escort.
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Re: UN confirms 90 civilians killed in US airstrike

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A US raid on a suspected guerrilla safe house left 11 members of a family dead on Sunday, including three women and three children. The US military insists that the dead men were members of "al-Qaeda" and that the house was full of arms, and that, indeed, some of the destruction was caused by a secondary explosion. Iraqis seem to be denying the US charges.

The main political significance of the dead women and children is that they certainly will be thought relevant by at least the Sunni Arabs in parliament to the status of forces agreement being hammered out between Prime Minister al-Maliki and the Bush administration.


McClatchy Washington Bureau | 10/05/2008 | 11 Iraqis killed in U.S. raid in Mosul

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Foreigners in Iraq should be subject to Iraqi law, it's that simple. The UN should not extend its spineless 'mandate' to permit foreign troops in the country. Any Iraqi leader agreeing to such an occupation is a traitor to his people.
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Re: UN confirms 90 civilians killed in US airstrike

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Foreigners in Iraq should be subject to Iraqi law, it's that simple. The UN should not extend its spineless 'mandate' to permit foreign troops in the country. Any Iraqi leader agreeing to such an occupation is a traitor to his people.
Huh. I thought this was a discussion of what happened in Afghanistan that took a turn to synthetic and disputed borders of the tribal areas in Pakistan, and other assorted turns. I suppose it's just a free-for-all thread at this point.
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Re: UN confirms 90 civilians killed in US airstrike

It's actually about unacceptable levels of civilian casualties at the hands of a gung-ho US military, if you'd care to examine the topic title. Here's another non-combatant family slaughtered , apparently, and more applause from the 'serves them right for being there' Stars and Stripes wavers.

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Re: UN confirms 90 civilians killed in US airstrike

US admits Afghan civilian deaths

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Far more civilians and children were killed in several US air raids on a village in Afghanistan in August that was first acknowledged, a US military investigation has concluded.

US officials had maintained only about seven civilians had died in the attacks on Azizabad in western Afghanistan on August 22.

The Afghan government and UN officials said at the time about 90 had been killed.

Al Jazeera English - Americas - US admits Afghan civilian deaths
So then, it seems that about six weeks is the officially-approved time period between a US atrocity and fessing up to it. Who pays the denial-monkeys, I wonder ?
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Re: UN confirms 90 civilians killed in US airstrike

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So then, it seems that about six weeks is the officially-approved time period between a US atrocity and fessing up to it. Who pays the denial-monkeys, I wonder ?
Write something about a car-bomb blowing up people in an Iraqi market. Not trying to minimize this tragedy, but I just want you to comment on someone else's mass atrocity, just once.
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Write something about a car-bomb blowing up people in an Iraqi market. Not trying to minimize this tragedy, but I just want you to comment on someone else's mass atrocity, just once.
Just try to get a grip on reality. If 'Yanqui' went home then there wouldn't be a car-bomb in an Iraqi market , and if there was it would be none of Yanqui's goddamned business.
It follows that the more people who concentrate on getting the US out of there the sooner calm will return. Why not put your shoulder to that wheel instead running interference for America's violent excesses ?
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