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moon · #**271** (**permalink**) 10-16-2008

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At least four people have been killed by a suspected US drone that fired two missiles into a Pakistani tribal area bordering Afghanistan, security officials say.

Al Jazeera English - CENTRAL/S. ASIA - 'US missiles' hit Pakistan village

What happened to the US promise that there would be no more incursions ?

Olearowski · #**272** (**permalink**) 10-16-2008

Yeah it all sounds kind of bad but..... who was to say they were actually civilians anyways.

How does that saying go.. birds of a feather flock together?

MattLarson · #**273** (**permalink**) 10-16-2008

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Originally Posted by moon

What happened to the US promise that there would be no more incursions ?

It's "none of Cyberian's goddamned business."

Matt

moon · #**274** (**permalink**) 10-16-2008

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The attacks came as Admiral Michael Mullen, chairman of the US Joint Chiefs of Staff, met General Ashfaq Kayani, Pakistan’s most senior army officer, and Yousuf Raza Gilani, the country's prime minister, in Islamabad on Wednesday to pledge his "commitment to respect Pakistan's sovereignty".

Al Jazeera English - CENTRAL/S. ASIA - 'US missiles' hit Pakistan village

Admiral Michael Mullen is, evidently, a lying yanqui asshole. That he's also a hypocrite is par for the course.

Richyrich03867 · #**275** (**permalink**) 10-17-2008

Sorta like another Michael, as in Michael Moore. A lying phony hypocrite blowhard that has found his niche in the movie-making business and gets filthy-rich producing bullshit.

moon · #**276** (**permalink**) 10-17-2008

He sure is one ugly mother, I'll grant you that.

moon · #**277** (**permalink**) 10-22-2008

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Nine Afghan soldiers have been killed and three others wounded in an air raid by US-led forces in eastern Afghanistan.

The attack came early on Wednesday in Khost, a province near the Pakistan border, in what a US military spokesperson told Al Jazeera was a misidentification.

Al Jazeera English - CENTRAL/S. ASIA - US air raid kills Afghan soldiers

But he ain't stupid.

moon · #**278** (**permalink**) 10-23-2008

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Missiles thought to have been fired by the US have killed at least eight students of a religious school in north-western Pakistan, witnesses say.

The school, in North Waziristan, is close to the residence of a fugitive Taleban leader, Jalaluddin Haqqani, witnesses told the BBC Urdu Service.

At least two missiles, reportedly fired by pilotless US drones, hit the school early on Thursday.

The Pakistani army is investigating the incident. The US has made no comment.

BBC NEWS | World | South Asia | 'US missiles' hit Pakistan school

Any honest American should be opposing the US invasion of Afghanistan, from here on.

moon · #**279** (**permalink**) 10-26-2008

Report;
'US air raid' kills Afghan guards

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At least 24 security workers at a construction site in Afghanistan's Ghazni province have been killed in suspected US air raids.

The deputy governor of the province southwest of the capital Kabul called Sunday's incident a "brutal attack".

Al Jazeera English - CENTRAL/S. ASIA - 'US air raid' kills Afghan guards

Anybody bothered to total up the number of innocent civilian dead reported in this thread alone ?
The response shouldn't be a lot of wittering about apologies. The response should be at least 24 dead Americans in Afghanistan. If true, a brutal attack by brutal invaders and there can be no excuses.

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The latest air raids come just days after the Afghan government said an attack by US-led forces killed nine Afghan soldiers in the southeastern province of Khost.

Hundreds of civilians have been killed in operations by Nato and US-led international forces this year, according to Afghan officials and aid groups.

Al Jazeera's Hashem Ahelbarra, reporting from Kabul, said that such an attack had created "an anti-American, anti-British sentiment in the country".

It's come to the point where it's way, way deeper than ' anti-American, anti-British sentiment'.

Si modo · #**280** (**permalink**) 10-26-2008

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Originally Posted by moon

.... Anybody bothered to total up the number of innocent civilian dead reported in this thread alone ?...

I don't know about "this thread alone", but someone certainly has tallied up the civilian deaths in the war in Afghanistan due to NATO forces and those due to Taliban pigs.

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Originally Posted by Lancer1

How are you doing?!! Showing your biased ignorance once again I'm afraid. You clearly know nothing whatsoever about the situation. There's only one person here who is demonstrating an unclear mind, mainly because it is full of left wing bigoted bullshit and that my friend is not me.

Let's provide you with some much needed enlightenment, not that it'll get through a thick skull, but first off, you seem to be under the impression that it is only NATO and the US fighting the insurgency. Well it isn't. There are some 116,000 troops in Afghanistan. NATO and US troops account for 51,000. The remaining 65,000 are ANA troops and they now do much of the fighting.

As for civilian deaths, you again seem to be under the impression that they are entirely down to allied forces. Wrong again. It is, in fact, the Taliban and insurgent fighters who are responsible for most civilian casualties.

Once again, here are facts, although I realise that you prefer politicised puffery:

Human Rights Watch estimated at least 699 Afghan civilians were killed by various insurgent forces in 2006 and at least 230 Afghan civilians were killed by US, NATO or ANA attacks: 116 by airstrikes and 114 by ground fire.

Their estimates for 2007 were: at least 950 Afghan civilians killed by various insurgent forces and 434 Afghan civilians were killed by US or NATO/ANA attacks: 321 by airstrikes and 113 by ground fire. Another 57 civilians were killed in crossfire, and 192 died under unclear circumstances.

For the first seven months of this year, Human Rights Watch estimated at least 367 Afghan civilians were killed by various insurgent forces and at least 173 Afghan civilians by US or NATO/ANA attacks: 119 by airstrikes and 54 by ground fire.

So, in summary, your friends, the Taliban and other insurgents are responsible for the deaths of over 2,000 civilians in the past three years. The US and NATO have been responsible for 837. Now tell me again who is responsible for killing too many Afghan citizens.

Taliban wins the tally.

moon · #**281** (**permalink**) 10-26-2008

From the link that lancer1 never bothered to include. You're generally quite hot on that.

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There are no official figures of civilian deaths caused by the invasion, so it is necessary to aggregate individual reports.

HRW is estimating . How often do you think HRW gets into the Hindu Kush ?

moon · #**282** (**permalink**) 10-27-2008

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A suicide bomber, disguised as a policeman, has killed an American soldier and wounded six other people at a police headquarters in northern Afghanistan.

Al Jazeera English - CENTRAL/S. ASIA - Afghanistan blast kills US soldier

At least 23 more to go then, for this week's even score.

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At least 24 security workers at a construction site in Afghanistan's Ghazni province have been killed in suspected US air raids.

The deputy governor of the province southwest of the capital Kabul called Sunday's incident a "brutal attack".

MattLarson · #**283** (**permalink**) 10-27-2008

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Originally Posted by moon

At least 23 more to go then, for this week's even score.

Keeping "score" with dead bodies?

Sick, perverse and disgusting.

It's also something you previously denied doing. Oh, well, I guess we can put to bed your untruthful denials on that score, eh?

Matt

moon · #**284** (**permalink**) 10-27-2008

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It's also something you previously denied doing. Oh, well, I guess we can put to bed your untruthful denials on that score, eh?

Matt

It's something I haven't done previously, genius, but this situation warrants it. Let's call it a new system of illustrating North American terrorism versus Afghan civilians.

Forget trying to spread some of your hypocrisy in my direction, Larson. I'm clean, you're the champ.

MattLarson · #**285** (**permalink**) 10-27-2008

Bullshit - it's something you've done many times.

And it's sick, depraved, and disgusting.

So no surprise you're still doing it.

Matt

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