Luap;
No sensible discussion on the nature of US hegemony ever makes it past first base; Palestine.

Sorry Lancer1 but those figures dont support your argument. After all, the government forces are by their nature charged with the defence of the population, whats more they are not a bunch of guys with AKs and RPGs but are some of the most advanced forces in the world. Yet they still manage to kill almost as many as the Taliban.

Moreover, while the Taliban indeed use civilians as protection the coalition blows through that shield just to protect their own already well protected rear ends and get kill stats to justify their mission.
Lets not go into how they 'deeply regret' this and that. Its a laughable argumentative ploy.

But dont try the 'Ive been there argument' one hears so much on this forum by chickenhawks and pretend warriors, cos Ive been there too and I know what your avatar is all about..

The only argument I am making is to highlight the fact that some use ONLY ONE SIDE of the coin to support an agenda. They ignore completely ALL other aspects.

I wouldn't call the ANA "some of the most advanced forces in the world"!

Simply not true.

What's that supposed to mean? If you've something to say, come out and say it!

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jeeva123;
Yes. Any sign of a US apology ? Compensation ?

[QUOTE]Well, thats just not true. For example, Moon does condemn most people on the your one side actually do condemn taliban violence but often they simply see little point in saying so because, and maybe you can answer this one, to what influential populace would they be talking? i.e whereas condemning US mistakes is of some use here with a line into direct US citizens thoughts and arguments, there is little use condemning Taliban violence as the people on this forum have no influence on that side. Whats more people like Moon for example, think that the whole original problem is in fact the West and not the Taliban itself, so again, condemning their actions is of little use.


Re the ANA, they are infantry supported by coalition. specifically the OMLT.


Lol, how many times have we seen British forces getting pinned down by Taliban rifle fire from in and around some farm complex, then solving the situation by blowing up the area with a large bomb so they can extract!

And that is the world's finest infantry! So what do you think the yanks do? Lemme give you a clue... it aint low to the ground fire and maneouvre and it sounds a bit like BOOOOM!



Its just that while you may notice alot of people not condemning the Taliban as much as you would like them too, I notice a people on this forum giving it the old 'I know war..you dont' line.

Your avatar denotes 16 Air Assault Brigade who are coming to the end of their tour about now. 2 Para having returned last week.

Actually, my statement of "not true", referred to your ridiculous statement that kill stats are used to justify a mission.

As for pinned down by rifle fire, that's laughable. The Taliban use more than rifles my friend. And yes, there are times where air support is called in. It's an entirely justifiable tactic.

Well' they have a point don't they? I know war only too well. I'm coming to the end of my 22 and I've seen enough combat to know the hell of it. Thankfully I shan't be facing it again, but the last thing I appreciate is armchair pundits who think they know better than the likes of me what goes on.

Yes, 16 Air Assault Brigade. Our tour has ended, 2 Para were the last to return. The Royals have taken over. So what's your point?

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Ah come off it. every single relevant mission report contains an estimate of enemy killed and its what the squaddies and the officers are in the game for anyway.

OK rifles, MGs RPGs and Mortars. All the standard infantry weapons. Which, the coalition forces defeat by dropping a large bomb.
Justified? clap fucking clap.

You know as well as I that the Taliban think the coalition a bunch of cowards for that reason as much as you think they are cowards for not sitting out in the open for you to bomb.


Check this out. One guy on this forum spends his time berating people who disagree with him using that tactic. Fairly effective... til I found out about him..
Turns out he's a fucking navy man his whole career! Probly had more seagull shit dropped on him than bombs!



Point is I know who you are, what you are and how you do what you do. So Id hope you think a bit before you, like others here, go on about the evil Taliban not having the decency to make themselves a nice target for you while its remains you and yours who retain all the advantages that technology and organisation brings.

Elaborate, moon.

You're saying that the most significant/tragic part of United State hegemony is its effects on the Israel/Palestine area following WWII?

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No man is an island...
Each man's death diminishes me,
Because I am involved in Mankind.
And therefore, never send to know
For whom the bell tolls;
It tolls for thee.
—John Donne

The contradiction of America's role as a Security Council permanent member and its blanket support for a regime lambasted by the United Nations is a result of plain, simple and highly visible hypocrisy. This hypocrisy undermines America's genuine efforts towards a respected world-leadership position. Palestine is the skeleton in America's closet.

"blanket support" for what regime?

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HBX;
You mean you don't know that poor American mothers have been inveigled into knitting blankets for Zion ?