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Wisdom_Seeker · #76 (**permalink**) 08-30-2008

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Originally Posted by Si modo

Use the search feature and find out what WS has to say about dead Israelis or Americans (children or otherwise) vs. dead Palestinians/Iraqis/Afghanis (children or otherwise).

Why dont you use it and enlighten us with what you are accusing me of

WS.

Si modo · #77 (**permalink**) 08-30-2008

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Originally Posted by Wisdom_Seeker

Why dont you use it and enlighten us with what you are accusing me of

WS.

This is an accusation?

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Use the search feature and find out what WS has to say about dead Israelis or Americans (children or otherwise) vs. dead Palestinians/Iraqis/Afghanis (children or otherwise).

No, it isn't. If the bot is interested, the bot can use the search feature and decide on his own.

Wisdom_Seeker · #78 (**permalink**) 08-30-2008

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Originally Posted by Chocobot

Thank you, I take its your opinion that WS puts dead Palestinian children above dead Isreali children, correct?

Or does he just think the difference in numbers is significant?

Anyway, WS, this is a rather underhand attack, but very cutting.

What say you?

I am used to these kinda pointless weak attacks

I already asked him to back up his accusations.

Also, he or Si Modo have never clearly and fully condemned the killing of civilians in Iraq, Palestine or Afghanistan. I have never,in my presence here, felt that they are showing any sign of regret or remorse when such happens. It has always been "collateral damage", ..."an accident" ... or they will avoid doing that by personally attacking forumers here or calling them anti-american etc.

I know them for long enough... this is a weak attack, doesnt bother me.

What I ask is simple.... for them to back up their accusations or to zip it

WS.

MattLarson · #79 (**permalink**) 08-30-2008

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Originally Posted by Wisdom_Seeker

What I ask is simple.... for them to back up their accusations or to zip it

WS.

You are not in a position to tell anyone here to "zip it". Your desire for censorship is totally rejected here, WS.

Matt

MattLarson · #80 (**permalink**) 08-30-2008

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Originally Posted by Chocobot

Thank you, I take its your opinion that WS puts dead Palestinian children above dead Isreali children, correct?

Or does he just think the difference in numbers is significant?

Anyway, WS, this is a rather underhand attack, but very cutting.

What say you?

Well, here's Wisdom_Seeker describing the machine-gunning of an unarmed, 15 year old boy as "VERY HEROIC":

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Originally Posted by Wisdom_Seeker

And I dont understand why you people dont think its heroic.

Going inside a place full of armed zionists who wud cheer at the death of innocent palestinians and infact support building illegal settlements on palestinian land... and a place filled with IDF trained guys.... jeez... if that is not heroic I dont know what is.

Would you go in such a place if you were in that gunman's shoes? IT WAS VERY HEROIC, well planned and mission accomplished. He even knew he was going to die so it is MORE THAN VERY HEROIC.

I am against killing innocent people and I have made this clear from the beginning but I see this target as a justified target and the attack was justified. Its far from being innocent.... its not like he went inside a school full of kids studying science and maths and shot 8 of them as a few here are tryin to say.

WS.

Matt

Si modo · #81 (**permalink**) 08-30-2008

And here is the incident of the 'heroic' shooting of students in a school:

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Hundreds of Israelis gathered at the school Friday to mourn the students who were killed in Thursday's attack. The grief-stricken crowd spilled outside the school and onto the surrounding streets.....

Sources: Israel attack linked to Hezbollah - CNN.com

Wisdom_Seeker · #82 (**permalink**) 08-30-2008

Matt,

Stop shooting yourself in the foot, you do it all the time. The school was far from being a normal school for innocent students who studied maths and science. You know very well who was in that school, what were they learning, did they support settlement building or not,... etc. The fact that the media did not refer to those IDF students as innocent people says alot. It is only the Israeli media that referred to them as such... oh and of course the American media.

Also in the same post you quoted, I reminded you for my position regarding the killing of innocent people. It was clear.

If you want to discuss this further, we can do so in the relevant thread.

WS.

Wisdom_Seeker · #83 (**permalink**) 08-30-2008

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Originally Posted by MattLarson

You are not in a position to tell anyone here to "zip it". Your desire for censorship is totally rejected here, WS.

Matt

I gave a choice. Either they provide evidence of how I differentiated between Israeli and Palestinian children or they ZIP IT...... or they can just apologise and retract.

I dont think I am breaking any forum rules here am I Mr Moderator?

WS.

Si modo · #84 (**permalink**) 08-30-2008

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Originally Posted by Wisdom_Seeker

I gave a choice. Either they provide evidence of how I differentiated between Israeli and Palestinian children or they ZIP IT...... or they can just apologise and retract.

I dont think I am breaking any forum rules here am I Mr Moderator?

WS.

Nope. I am providing no apologies AND I am not zipping it. But, it's pretty cool that I got the opportunity to link to the incident where you said killing students was heroic.

Now, do you have any imput on the fact that the DoD (who was actually there) says five civilians died, not the UN claims you slurped up?

Wisdom_Seeker · #85 (**permalink**) 08-30-2008

Matt,

The UN and Afghani Government officials said 90 civilians were killed as a result of a US airstrike few days ago. Do you condemn this yes or no? Its that simple.

Why would the UN make this up? The Americans said they are 25 militants and 5 civilians.... the number is completely off. In the past you have stood with the US army on whatever it claimed was gospel. Now I want to see you reject what the UN is saying especially since they have eyewitnesses and reports from other sources.

Do you feel any remorse or guilt or sympathy for these dead children? Yes or No. Simple questions requiring simple answers.

The same questions apply to Si Modo and Imperator.

WS.

MattLarson · #86 (**permalink**) 08-30-2008

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Originally Posted by Wisdom_Seeker

Matt,

The UN and Afghani Government officials said 90 civilians were killed as a result of a US airstrike few days ago. Do you condemn this yes or no? Its that simple.

Yes, of course. Just as I have condemned it in the past (a fact you are aware of, but ignore)

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Originally Posted by Wisdom_Seeker

Why would the UN make this up? The Americans said they are 25 militants and 5 civilians.... the number is completely off. In the past you have stood with the US army on whatever it claimed was gospel.

Allah gets sad when you say untrue things.

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Originally Posted by Wisdom_Seeker

Now I want to see you reject what the UN is saying especially since they have eyewitnesses and reports from other sources.

Keep wanting - I've never made any statement claiming the UN report is wrong.

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Originally Posted by Wisdom_Seeker

Do you feel any remorse or guilt or sympathy for these dead children? Yes or No. Simple questions requiring simple answers.

Simple questioner requiring simple answers, more like it.

Yes, I do feel sympathy for the dead children. Unlike yourself, I've never made any claim that killing children is "VERY HEROIC".

Matt

The same questions apply to Si Modo and Imperator.

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Si modo · #87 (**permalink**) 08-30-2008

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Originally Posted by Wisdom_Seeker

Matt,

The UN and Afghani Government officials said 90 civilians were killed as a result of a US airstrike few days ago. Do you condemn this yes or no? Its that simple.

Why would the UN make this up? The Americans said they are 25 militants and 5 civilians.... the number is completely off. In the past you have stood with the US army on whatever it claimed was gospel. Now I want to see you reject what the UN is saying especially since they have eyewitnesses and reports from other sources.

Do you feel any remorse or guilt or sympathy for these dead children? Yes or No. Simple questions requiring simple answers.

The same questions apply to Si Modo and Imperator.

WS.

Oh, and I'll repeat myself again, as I so often do when you keep asking an answered question. It's a tragedy. I'll make a blanket statement: It's a tragedy when innocents get killed in a war.

Now, how would you know that the DoD numbers are "completely off"?

MattLarson · #88 (**permalink**) 08-30-2008

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Originally Posted by Wisdom_Seeker

I gave a choice. Either they provide evidence of how I differentiated between Israeli and Palestinian children or they ZIP IT...... or they can just apologise and retract.

I dont think I am breaking any forum rules here am I Mr Moderator?

WS.

Actually, yes. Your demands for people to be silent are baiting.

Matt

MattLarson · #89 (**permalink**) 08-30-2008

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Originally Posted by Wisdom_Seeker

Matt,

Stop shooting yourself in the foot, you do it all the time. The school was far from being a normal school for innocent students who studied maths and science. You know very well who was in that school, what were they learning, did they support settlement building or not,... etc. The fact that the media did not refer to those IDF students as innocent people says alot. It is only the Israeli media that referred to them as such... oh and of course the American media.

Also in the same post you quoted, I reminded you for my position regarding the killing of innocent people. It was clear.

If you want to discuss this further, we can do so in the relevant thread.

WS.

Yes, your position is clear - you can applaud the killing of an unarmed 15 year old boy when you can make some claim he is not "innocent" (and apparently, just being an Israeli is sufficient for you).

Your position is identical to those who applaud the killing of Palestinian children by Israel - even using the same nauseating excuse that the children were not "innocent", so it's "heroic" to kill them.

Absolutely disgusting.

Matt

Wisdom_Seeker · #90 (**permalink**) 08-30-2008

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Originally Posted by MattLarson

Actually, yes. Your demands for people to be silent are baiting.

Matt

Is it now? Well I am waiting for a warning from you and a couple of black points on my card.

I can show you numerous ways where you have been baiting and your friends too up there. So dont go getting biased and unfair on me now

WS.

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