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Re: Religious conversion in Iraq - use a Koran? Nah, bombs and AK-47s
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Re: Religious conversion in Iraq - use a Koran? Nah, bombs and AK-47s
Interesting to see their take on this, when Islam is quite explicit that there is "no coercion in religion."
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Re: Religious conversion in Iraq - use a Koran? Nah, bombs and AK-47s
Those were the earlier Suras. The later ones state quiet clearly that it is fine to kill the infidels or to subjugate them.
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Re: Religious conversion in Iraq - use a Koran? Nah, bombs and AK-47s
Are you saying that killing and subjugation are okay?
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Re: Religious conversion in Iraq - use a Koran? Nah, bombs and AK-47s
Sorry. my bad. It's just that there is coercion in Islam. Lot of it. The dhimmi system is designed to make it difficult and dangerous to be a non Muslim. It's explicitly stated that Pagans should be killed.
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Re: Religious conversion in Iraq - use a Koran? Nah, bombs and AK-47s
"What AbOut the PAlestinains, ?! Muslims are Oppressed by the Zionists!!" - --
--Angry Islamist rant Justifying terrorism. You know what would shut them up? "What about the Coptic, Sudanese, Iraqi, Iranian, Syrian Christians!?!" Christians should become nationalistic like the Muslims. Oh that would be fun.. "Muslims are in guantomno bay, because they oppress Christians oversees, Muslims are harrassed by FBI because they oppress christians oversees.. " Just as islamists justify suicide bombing.
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Yes, and they can change their mind off and on whether a Christian is a 'people of the book' or a Pagan. Some say that it only refers to Christians that don't believe in that trinity.. which is pretty much everyone besides some Americanized protestant beliefs like some Apostolics and pentacostals..
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Re: Religious conversion in Iraq - use a Koran? Nah, bombs and AK-47s
I've noticed that as Muhammad grew older, his revelations became more and more violent. Thus the discrepancy. There are both passages promoting conversion, and passages promoting the extermination of infidels (particularly pagans).
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Re: Religious conversion in Iraq - use a Koran? Nah, bombs and AK-47s
Bush didn't make it up, he hyped it up and then blew it up to the point where it's difficult to recognize.
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