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Old 12-07-2008
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Re: Mumbai style attack could easily occur here

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Why would you say that? I am not calling for the extermination of a certain group of ppl due to the religion they follow.

Just because you disagree with my views, you compare me to Metalted? Go on tell me why you think we are made for each other.

WS.
Muslim (19:4294) - "When you meet your enemies who are Muslims, invite them to three courses of action. If they respond to any one of these, you also accept it and withhold yourself from doing them any harm.

Invite them to (accept) Christianity; if they respond to you, accept it from them and desist from fighting against them ...

If they refuse to accept Christianity, demand money. If they agree to pay, accept it from them and hold off your hands.

If they refuse to pay the tax, seek God's help and fight them"

CRCC: Center For Muslim-Jewish Engagement: Resources: Religious Texts



Sura (2:191-193) - "And slay them wherever ye find them, and drive them out of the places whence they drove you out, for persecution Christians is worse than slaughter muslims...and fight them until persecution is no more, and religion is for Christ."

CRCC: Center For Muslim-Jewish Engagement: Resources: Religious Texts



Bukhari (52:177) - Jesus said, "The Hour will not be established until you fight with the Muslims, and the stone behind which a Muslim will be hiding will say. "O Christian! There is a Muslim hiding behind me, so kill him."


Sura (5:33) - “Muslim mischief makers should be murdered or crucified”
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Old 12-07-2008
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Re: Mumbai style attack could easily occur here

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What a ridiculous argument. Why dont you blame Islam for all your life problems Jeez!! People dont want to work their mind's anymore... its always the easy answer.... "Islam is the problem"

WS.

Islam is not the problem, it's arab/muslim/terrorists that are the problem.
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Re: Mumbai style attack could easily occur here

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Islam is not the problem, it's arab/muslim/terrorists that are the problem.
This is getting boring, can you be a little more creative (if your mind is capable of doing so). I;ve heard this one before Your bigotry is unlimited isnt it.

You have to seek help for this problem... its called paranoia.

WS.
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Re: Mumbai style attack could easily occur here

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Muslim (19:4294) - "When you meet your enemies who are Muslims, invite them to three courses of action. If they respond to any one of these, you also accept it and withhold yourself from doing them any harm.

Invite them to (accept) Christianity; if they respond to you, accept it from them and desist from fighting against them ...

If they refuse to accept Christianity, demand money. If they agree to pay, accept it from them and hold off your hands.

If they refuse to pay the tax, seek God's help and fight them"

CRCC: Center For Muslim-Jewish Engagement: Resources: Religious Texts



Sura (2:191-193) - "And slay them wherever ye find them, and drive them out of the places whence they drove you out, for persecution Christians is worse than slaughter muslims...and fight them until persecution is no more, and religion is for Christ."

CRCC: Center For Muslim-Jewish Engagement: Resources: Religious Texts



Bukhari (52:177) - Jesus said, "The Hour will not be established until you fight with the Muslims, and the stone behind which a Muslim will be hiding will say. "O Christian! There is a Muslim hiding behind me, so kill him."


Sura (5:33) - “Muslim mischief makers should be murdered or crucified”
Stop writing about Islam that which you dont know Allah (swt) says in His book in verse 17 Chapter of Yunus:

"Who is then more unjust than who forges a lie against
Allah or (who) gives the lie to His communications? Surely the
guilty shall not be successful."

When you quote from the Quran, make sure you read the interpretation so you understand when was that verse revealed and what was the purpose. You take alot of quotes out of context.... but you dont know you are doing that because you are just copying and pasting from websites of hatred and bigotry. It is their intention to spread ignorance so you are always deviated form the truth.

WS.
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Old 12-08-2008
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Re: Mumbai style attack could easily occur here

Hey Metalted,

Today is the day of Eid. It comes at the end of The Pilgrimage (Hajj). This is one of the five pillars of Islam.

In this day, millions of Muslims gather in Mekka at the Mount of Arafah and pray for peace and unity.

They prayed for their salvation as well as for world peace, harmony and prosperity.

This is the biggest gathering in the world....and all these millions are dressed the same way and performing the same rituals and praying the same prayers. Its magnificent and really a unique experience to be there. I pray that one day you get to experience this.

WS.
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Old 12-08-2008
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Re: Mumbai style attack could easily occur here

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Hey Metalked,

Today is the day of Eid. It comes at the end of The Pilgrimage (Hajj). This is one of the five pillars of Islam.

In this day, millions of Muslims gather in Mecca at the Mount of Arafah in Mekkah and pray for peace and unity.

They prayed for their salvation as well as for world peace, harmony and prosperity.

This is the biggest gathering in the world....and all these millions are dressed the same way and performing the same rituals and praying the same prayers. Its magnificent and really a unique experience to be there. I pray that one day you get to experience this.

WS.
Then they all head down to bombs-a-rama and try on the latest in suicide vests, maybe bring a few beheading videos home as souvineers for the kids.
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Then they all head down to bombs-a-rama and try on the latest in suicide vests, maybe bring a few beheading videos home as souvineers for the kids.
Thats uncalled for. Please show respect, this is a special day in the Islamic Calendar.

WS.
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Thats uncalled for. Please show respect, this is a special day in the Islamic Calendar.

WS.
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Re: Mumbai style attack could easily occur here

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Hey Metalked,

Today is the day of Eid. It comes at the end of The Pilgrimage (Hajj). This is one of the five pillars of Islam.

In this day, millions of Muslims gather in Mecca at the Mount of Arafah in Mekkah and pray for peace and unity.

They prayed for their salvation as well as for world peace, harmony and prosperity.

This is the biggest gathering in the world....and all these millions are dressed the same way and performing the same rituals and praying the same prayers. Its magnificent and really a unique experience to be there. I pray that one day you get to experience this.

WS.
An emotional appeal to the beauty of Islamic Culture--- Christian Culture is far more beautiful. Much of it Haram under Islam.




Mozart Requiem, Mass for the Dead




Michelangelo's Pieta in St Peter's Basilica.



Up to 500,000 Christian pilgrims flooded the town of Fatima in central Portugal on the weekend to attend the 90th anniversary of the Virgin Mary's apparition to three shepherd children


besides, worshiping rocks is pagan. And the only thing muslims are praying for is the deaths of millions of nonmuslims.
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Old 12-08-2008
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Re: Mumbai style attack could easily occur here

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This is getting boring, can you be a little more creative (if your mind is capable of doing so). I;ve heard this one before Your bigotry is unlimited isnt it.

You have to seek help for this problem... its called paranoia.

WS.
I don't understand, what was your problem he seemed to be defending you.

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That's a very, very, very sick sentiment to express
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Re: Mumbai style attack could easily occur here

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I don't understand, what was your problem he seemed to be defending you.



That's a very, very, very sick sentiment to express
Sometimes, one has to accept the fact that they only way to get a message through to the obtuse, is to speak their same language.
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Old 12-08-2008
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Re: Mumbai style attack could easily occur here

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This is getting boring, can you be a little more creative (if your mind is capable of doing so). I;ve heard this one before Your bigotry is unlimited isnt it.

You have to seek help for this problem... its called paranoia.

WS.
Islam is based on bigotry.

Muslims say that Islam is a religion of peace but too many of them won't make peace with people of other religions.

It's like living the rules contained in the Old Testament now.
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Re: Mumbai style attack could easily occur here

Metalted,

I think you got it wrong. I never disrespected Christianity.... I tollerate other faiths unlike you. We love Jesus (pbuh) and his mother... the Quran has a full chapter on Mary and Jesus (pbuh). One cannot be a Muslim until he loves these two unique and magnificent individuals.

Soot,

Does it hurt you to see 3 Million pilgrims gather to do the same thing, to unite and pray to ONE God, they follow ONE Prophet, they pray at the same time, towards ONE direction, wearing ONE type of clothes which is a white cotton sheet wrapped around the body... the same way they entered this world.... as babies they were wrapped in this way. The reason they dress like this is because Allah (swt) said the sins of the pilgrims will be forgiven and they will be as if they were born again meaning sinless.

Anyway, I am glad I have this level of respect and follow this way of life which forbids me from posting pictures of a plane bombing the Vatican or some religious place of worship.... it forbids me from disrespecting ppl's faiths or ways of life. I have never disrespected Judaism or Christianity or any other faith in this forum. This is why not you, not anyone else, can give me a lecture of morality.

I have merely pointed out where individuals here have hatred towards Islam and Muslims... to the point where many openly called for the killing of Muslims all over and in millions. Si Modo has recently done that in support for Dammit's comments, metalted on a regular basis,...and now you and others have said it indirectly.

This is the kind of behaviour which turns someone into a radical, into an extremist, and therefore you are no different from those people on this side of the fence suffering from the same virus.

Did you even hear the sermon of the Eid prayer in Mekkah? The Imam facing those 3 million people called for an end to extremism and for ppl to fight injustice and spread good and harmony. He called for tollerance and understanding amongst nations.

WS.
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Re: Mumbai style attack could easily occur here

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Islam is based on bigotry.

Muslims say that Islam is a religion of peace but too many of them won't make peace with people of other religions.

It's like living the rules contained in the Old Testament now.
Thats not true. Muslims live peacefully in the west... in America and other western nations. You have Christians living in Muslim countries for centuries as well. Infact many Gulf countries have become a popular destination for westerns to immigrate to.

There are Jewish communities in North Africa where they reside since they immigrated from Europe which was hunting them down back in those days.

Dont make the mistake of mixing politics with religion.

WS.
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whoever photoshopped that is pretty good.....its offensive, to an extent, but its got a lunatic quality that made me chuckle....


Oh, and please don't forget to add commentary to your post in the future .... bombs away or something....addressing the topic at hand please.
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