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Jason Marcel · #76 (**permalink**) 12-01-2008

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Originally Posted by oilersfan1

You are absolutely right. An attack like that in Mumbai could easily occur here...and Canada could play the Pakistani role at it is a notorious haven for terrorists. Canada needs to do more to stiffen its immigration policies and combat terrorists operating in its country.

Well, there was that millenium dude who got picked up at the border with the intent to get to L.A. and blow up the Israeli airline, but the RCMP and CSIS followed the guy, tipped off the FBI, and got him redhanded.

Then there were the spectacular 17 or whatever they were called, those 17 guys picked up in a cell in Toronto, also followed by RCMP and CSIS, who did another fine job of preventing any harm to the public.

After it's role in Afghanistan, Canada was placed on Al Qaeda's "must get" list, and to date, the U.S., England, Australia, India, Spain among others have been attacked. But not Canada yet. Part luck and part good intelligence work.

It isn't Canada the U.S. has to worry about, it's Mexico. Thousands upon thousands come from Mexico illegally every month while the U.S. gov't twidles it's thumbs.

Meritocrat · #77 (**permalink**) 12-01-2008

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Originally Posted by Si modo

As I said, your rational [sic] is quite idiotic. You express joy at the violent deaths of several Jews in Mumbai. Then your rational [sic] is to bring up a red herring about the off topic subject of prisoners who are raped. I have no interest in red herrings as they have no place in debate except as a fallacy. And, if you wish to become obnoxious and snarky, I can certainly go that route, as you are well aware. It is your choice to open that door or not.

I already knew that you verbally dehumanize whomever the Jews want you to verbally dehumanize. That is why you profess the idea that I deserve the death penalty for my views, and why you treat the rape victims of Abu Ghraib as evil.

Si modo · #78 (**permalink**) 12-01-2008

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Originally Posted by Meritocrat

I already knew that you verbally dehumanize whomever the Jews want you to verbally dehumanize. That is why you profess the idea that I deserve the death penalty for my views, and why you treat the rape victims of Abu Ghraib as evil.

I wonder what sort of imagination allows one to believe that someone who is against the death penalty would "profess the idea that [you] deserve the death penalty". Also, as you continue to use some off topic red herring (I realize that is redundant, but sometimes redundant modifiers are required for those who cannot grasp such simple concepts), your fallacies certainly nullify any argument you think you have.

DammitBoy! · #79 (**permalink**) 12-01-2008

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Originally Posted by Meritocrat

What do you have to say about the disgusting fag rapists for whom this shitty country throws parades?

I say it's time for you to back off the crack pipe and get some help in the mental health department...

Wisdom_Seeker · #80 (**permalink**) 12-02-2008

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Originally Posted by DammitBoy!

So why did they target americans and white people? We have nothing to do with the situation in Kashmir.

If this was over kashmir, wouldn't they have targeted Indian government officials?

You have to ask yourself... why not? Why wouldnt they target Americans? On one side, they are all civilians ... americans or not... and should not be targetted ... this is the moral side.... but when you talk about reality ... i expect these kinda attackers to target people from the countries who have been conducting wars in Muslim countries and killing Muslim civilians.... this is from their (the attackers) point of view. They're not goin to think whether these ppl are civilians or not are they? Duhhh!!... They came with the intention to seek revenge and punish. Also they came to die. You cant deal with someone who is already dead.

So to expect them not to target Americans is abit naive dont you think? You have to think like they are thinking.

America never shouts "terrorism" when the people dying are Muslims... kashmir, chechnia, palestine, etc... it never moves to try to stop massacres against Muslims. So expect extremism to rise in such areas when ppl feel forgotten, where ppl feel desperate and hopeless.

Deal with the injustice first, then you will see a drop in extremism.

You gota move from this narrow mindedness of "kill them all, bomb them wherever you find them". The solution is as I said elsewhere.

WS.

Meritocrat · #81 (**permalink**) 12-02-2008

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Originally Posted by Si modo

I wonder what sort of imagination allows one to believe that someone who is against the death penalty would "profess the idea that [you] deserve the death penalty". Also, as you continue to use some off topic red herring (I realize that is redundant, but sometimes redundant modifiers are required for those who cannot grasp such simple concepts), your fallacies certainly nullify any argument you think you have.

You stated that if there's ever a widespread breakdown of order, that Nazis should be hunted.

Meritocrat · #82 (**permalink**) 12-02-2008

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Originally Posted by DammitBoy!

I say it's time for you to back off the crack pipe and get some help in the mental health department...

Abu Ghraib torture and prisoner abuse - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia <--- waits for you to condemen that

Meritocrat · #83 (**permalink**) 12-02-2008

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Originally Posted by Wisdom_Seeker

You have to ask yourself... why not? Why wouldnt they target Americans? On one side, they are all civilians ... americans or not... and should not be targetted ... this is the moral side.... but when you talk about reality ... i expect these kinda attackers to target people from the countries who have been conducting wars in Muslim countries and killing Muslim civilians.... this is from their (the attackers) point of view. They're not goin to think whether these ppl are civilians or not are they? Duhhh!!... They came with the intention to seek revenge and punish. Also they came to die. You cant deal with someone who is already dead.

So to expect them not to target Americans is abit naive dont you think? You have to think like they are thinking.

America never shouts "terrorism" when the people dying are Muslims... kashmir, chechnia, palestine, etc... it never moves to try to stop massacres against Muslims. So expect extremism to rise in such areas when ppl feel forgotten, where ppl feel desperate and hopeless.

Deal with the injustice first, then you will see a drop in extremism.

You gota move from this narrow mindedness of "kill them all, bomb them wherever you find them". The solution is as I said elsewhere.

WS.

Take a look at the avatar of the poster whom you're addressing. Do you really expect enlightened thinking?

Si modo · #84 (**permalink**) 12-02-2008

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Originally Posted by Wisdom_Seeker

You have to ask yourself... why not? Why wouldnt they target Americans? On one side, they are all civilians ... americans or not... and should not be targetted ... this is the moral side.... but when you talk about reality ... i expect these kinda attackers to target people from the countries who have been conducting wars in Muslim countries and killing Muslim civilians.... this is from their (the attackers) point of view. They're not goin to think whether these ppl are civilians or not are they? Duhhh!!... They came with the intention to seek revenge and punish. Also they came to die. You cant deal with someone who is already dead.

So to expect them not to target Americans is abit naive dont you think? You have to think like they are thinking.

America never shouts "terrorism" when the people dying are Muslims... kashmir, chechnia, palestine, etc... it never moves to try to stop massacres against Muslims. So expect extremism to rise in such areas when ppl feel forgotten, where ppl feel desperate and hopeless.

Deal with the injustice first, then you will see a drop in extremism.

You gota move from this narrow mindedness of "kill them all, bomb them wherever you find them". The solution is as I said elsewhere.

WS.

Yet, you still don't address your own contradiction. Let's remind others of your initial contribution to this thread where you excuse these perpetrators' actions because of the situation in Kashmir. When asked why then they targeted Americans and Brits, you excuse their actions by saying the reason they did this is because of what Americans have done in Muslim countries. One must ask themselves at this point if you even know what you are talking about. It is easy to conclude that you don't because of your inconsistencies and because your have no facts to post.

Luckily for the rest of us, animeshpandeya has offered a rational, cogent, and supported analysis of the situation along with other posters.

Si modo · #85 (**permalink**) 12-02-2008

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Originally Posted by Meritocrat

Take a look at the avatar of the poster whom you're addressing. Do you really expect enlightened thinking?

Excellent. You have decided to open the ad hominem door. One should ask themselves what we should expect from a nazi, who posts his glee at the deaths of several Jews in the Mumbai situation AND one who has publically stated that he has shot a black. And, what should one expect from a poster who sees things that are not there (often called hallucinations)? Should one expect their mental health to allow for any sort of rational thought at all? As these are rhetorical questions, I would hope that other posters will take note of these questions and ponder them when reading your posts.

Si modo · #86 (**permalink**) 12-02-2008

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Originally Posted by Meritocrat

You stated that if there's ever a widespread breakdown of order, that Nazis should be hunted.

Can you actually back this up? And, in the mind of a nazi, that translates to your death penalty?

mudwhistle · #87 (**permalink**) 12-02-2008

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Originally Posted by Meritocrat

You stated that if there's ever a widespread breakdown of order, that Nazis should be hunted.

I'm waiting for an outbreak of common-sense in this country because it seems to be a rare thing these days. Just watch the news for 15 mins and you'll know this without a doubt.

Arjun · #88 (**permalink**) 12-02-2008

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Originally Posted by Wisdom_Seeker

Aye!!

So India is Secular to you? Ok let me know when you enter the real world.

Do me a favour.... research the Kashmir problem to understand whats goin on regionally over there.

I am not patronising, I am saying it how it is. If you want to understand whats goin on, you have to be rational. Also, you have to take all factors into consideration. This is not a one sided coin.... THERE ARE NO ONE SIDED COINS.

So DONT ignore one side of the story while you concentrate on the other. India is playin its role like the US played its role after 9/11. Alot of propaganda, alot of brainwashing, alot of sht coming from their media and their politicians. They saw this coming... you think their secret services play poker every night?

Americans know they were lied to after 9/11..... now you know India's game before they play it. Rice is goin there to make sure they know the rules of the game thats all. More alienation for the Indian Muslim population... more abuse, more oppression and more of the same reactions. I am not excusing the attackers.... how will this attack be of any benefit to the Muslims in India and in Kashmir.

Anyways, you can put ur hands on your eyes and shout "its terrorism, they hate India and its way of life" dadadadada.... or you can dig deeper and reach out to whats difficult to reach these days.... THE TRUTH.

I am not here to patronise or insult. Dont discuss me, discuss my opinions.

WS.

So what you suggest for Kashmir. Hand them over to Pakistan since there are majority muslims. Do you think the people want it. And what happens if we hand over Kashmir to Pakistan. India will no longer be a secular nation. We will become a fundamentalist nation like Islamic Republic of Pakistan.

India has given a such large land to the Islamists, no where in the world you will see such a thing happen. India has lost land from Kandahar (In Mahabharata known as Gandhar, the land of Gandhari) onwards to the present Indian border. I feel that's a lot of injustice meted out to Indians. Remember these are our sacred lands, sacred as Mecca and Medina for Muslims and sacred as Vatican to the Christians.

Enough is enough. Time to get back our land.

Arjun · #89 (**permalink**) 12-02-2008

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Originally Posted by Wisdom_Seeker

You have to ask yourself... why not? Why wouldnt they target Americans? On one side, they are all civilians ... americans or not... and should not be targetted ... this is the moral side.... but when you talk about reality ... i expect these kinda attackers to target people from the countries who have been conducting wars in Muslim countries and killing Muslim civilians.... this is from their (the attackers) point of view. They're not goin to think whether these ppl are civilians or not are they? Duhhh!!... They came with the intention to seek revenge and punish. Also they came to die. You cant deal with someone who is already dead.

So to expect them not to target Americans is abit naive dont you think? You have to think like they are thinking.

America never shouts "terrorism" when the people dying are Muslims... kashmir, chechnia, palestine, etc... it never moves to try to stop massacres against Muslims. So expect extremism to rise in such areas when ppl feel forgotten, where ppl feel desperate and hopeless.

Deal with the injustice first, then you will see a drop in extremism.

You gota move from this narrow mindedness of "kill them all, bomb them wherever you find them". The solution is as I said elsewhere.

WS.

You are supporting terror by saying that Islam has the right to attack kufr land because of Kashmir. Who said that Kashmir belonged to the Muslims. That land belonged to us. Indians. Not only that the land till Kandhahar is ours. Persia belong to the Parsis. For all those done to these people, I think they must strike back and get back their land. What about attacks in Varanasi. So this will legitimize and attack on Mecca and Medina.

Arjun · #90 (**permalink**) 12-02-2008

Remind you that if we start to deal with the injustice, Islam will be pushed to the four corners of Mecca and Medina.

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