I am not talking about who Kashmir should belong to. Thats another topic. And plz enough of your accusations that I support what happened ... you are out of your mind if you think I support what happened. I am just saying things like this happen due to injustice happening to their people or people they strongly connect themselves with elsewhere. Its a reaction to an action.

Arjun, put your indian emotions aside... do you realise how uncivilised you sound when you talk about wiping out Muslims in Kashmir and giving it back to the indians? What makes you better than the attackers... you are worse infact.

And stillalive is givin me lectures about the Quran? This is not the topic mate....

FOCUS please!

I am talking about WHY someone would want to attack India. Trying to figure out or understand the causes does not mean you are justifying what happened. The attack happened as a reaction to something. Just like every attack elsewhere... otherwise why didnt the attackers attack I dunno.. .Sri Lanka, Nepal, or some other country in the area? Obviously India is targetted for a certain reason.

I am just saying we must not look at one side only but research the other side and see what India is getting involved in as well. Just because India is "an ally" does not mean we cannot ask questions about its dirty behaviour in the region. Thats all.

And please no stupid suggestions like give back Kashmir to such and such.. and give back Persia to such and such. Focus on the attack. Thats the topic!

WS.

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No, but you were talking about westerners being targeted for occupying India. I notice you have avoided addressing that...

You didnt expect them to target westerners? Of course they have nothing to do with India or Kashmir...I already addressed this. They were targetted because they are from countries who the attackers believe... invaded Iraq/Afghanistan and killed their "brothers and sisters". Same as Al Qaeda mentality. The targets were clear... they had alot of westerners in those hotels. And it is obvious why they attacked Jews as well.... its because of the Israeli/Palestinian conflict. Any 5 year old would understand this.

This is how they saw it... and this is what you must understand. I am surprised you dont know why they attacked westerners.

NOW LET ME SAY THIS ONE MORE TIME. I AM NOT JUSTIFYING THE SELECTION OF THESE TARGETS OR THE PURPOSE OF THIS ATTACK. THOSE PEOPLE ARE INNOCENT PEOPLE AND MUSLIMS DIED THERE TOO. I AM JUST TELLING YOU THINGS FROM THE ATTACKER'S PERSPECTIVE. I STRONGLY CONDEMN THIS ATTACK.

Please tell me you got it this time?

WS.

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"You can't separate peace from freedom because no one can be at peace unless he has his freedom"- Malcom X

I just re-read your comment. "..westerners being targetted for occupying India"??/ WTF??

I never said this.

WS.

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"You can't separate peace from freedom because no one can be at peace unless he has his freedom"- Malcom X

What?!!! Obviously one is ignorant about the fact that the secular government (I know how irritating those secular governments can be to "true believers") of India follows a constitution - a very strong constitution.

Yes. You are saying it's okay for Indians and Pakistani to attack westerners in India, because of the invasions of Iraq and Afghanistan.

So, if a Christian group attacks Muslims because of the vile discrimination that their "brothers and sisters" face in the Islamic word, you'll show the same understanding?

Great. And if Jewish groups start attacking Muslim civilians because of the Palestinian attacks on Israeli citizens, you'll be understanding of the "why", if not the "how".

Or will you assume that the more Westernised, mostly Caucasian groups should be expected to act like adults?

I don't believe that for a second.

The totality of your posts here on USPOL illustrate just where your allegiances lie.

You support terrorists in their actions, and you mourn their deaths...

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Science flies you to the moon.

Religion flies you into buildings.

I don't doubt the sincerity of your condemnation. At the same time, you are what we call an "enabler." You are making sure that the terrorist's message gets out to a wider audience (thus fomenting more anti-Western hatred), much like the wife who buys her alcoholic husband cheap vodka.

You are making sure the terrorists don't die in vain.

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- Milton Friedman

"The quickest way of ending a war is to lose it."
- George Orwell

Stop being silly and put this hyperbole behaviour aside. I dont care if you doubt my sincerity or not. I have condemned similar attacks in the past and will continue to do so in the future. On the other side,... people like Steve and his kind have tried to justify US attacks on civilians as "collateral damage".

Hafke,

You cannot use that comparison because Muslim armies are not invading Christian countries and killing thousands upon thousands of innocent civilians. So your comparison has no weight.

Again, I am not justifying the attack. I am telling you things from their perspective... something you ignore to see. Political analysts study "terrorism" in great detail and write books about their strategies etc... does that mean they are justifying these strategies? No....

Its easy to accuse someone of being "an enabler" just because you disagree with his views. Steve found some balls to say I support terrorists yet he is a self confessed bigot and openly equates Muslims with Terrorists WTF?? How backward and uncivilised!

This is the problem with many Americans. They dont ask WHY? They dont try to dig deeper.... its always the media that tells them what they should know.....thats how brainwashing works... and thats how millions and millions voted for someone like Bush You need to work your brain and become more sophisticated.

Anyways,..... I gave my two cents regarding this topic. There is terrorism practiced from both sides..... yet only one side is condemned to hell and the other is classed as an "ally". Hypocracy runs in the blood and so many times its been pointed out and spotted in this forum.

WS.

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"You can't separate peace from freedom because no one can be at peace unless he has his freedom"- Malcom X

Our military takes great pains to minimize civilian death. While Islam seeks to maximize it.

Terrorism serves no military purpose, its only effect is to satisfy a sadistic urge in a backwards culture, and anger the people they strike against.

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Capitalism is Democracy, vote with your dollar.

The audience is asked to remain seated until the end of the recession.

You made me laugh!!

WS.

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"You can't separate peace from freedom because no one can be at peace unless he has his freedom"- Malcom X

if we didn't we wouldn't have our own military courts prosecuting our own soldiers.

meanwhile Islam's human rights record is absolutely atrocious.

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"To those who say what must be said; They lead the way for those who will do what must be done."

Capitalism is Democracy, vote with your dollar.

The audience is asked to remain seated until the end of the recession.

My comparison is perfectly valid. Christians face vile discrimination in Muslim countries. The Islamists are attacking Western targets. If you held Westerners to the same standards, you'd be more "understanding" of the reasons why cultural and/or religious Christians/Jews commit attacks. But no, there is an expectation that these people should be rational, and that it's okay for non Westerners to be less rational because, hey, what can you expect?

I was wondering when you'd bring up this idiocy. "Anyone who disagrees with me is brainwashed and unsophisticated! I know this because they voted in a way with which I disagree and they won't accept my word as gospel!"

That's just insulting and it's not even a real argument. Do you really think that will change someone's mind? Nice baiting there.

You are openly justifying the killings. Also from your justification it becomes clear that the Jews can now kill Muslims and take revenge for killing their brothers and sisters. On one hand you pay lip service by denying and try to be away from the terrorists but on the other hand you justify the killings by taking out Palestine, Kashmir etc which has been created by Islam itself because it cannot tolerate the others. The creation of Pakistan itself was based on this flawed idea of hatred towards others. It's not our problem but the problem of Islam itself and you cannot blame others for that. Correct yourself from supporting such a violent ideology. Mere words will not do.