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Re: Mumbai style attack could easily occur here
of course it could, and has occured. Won't even need boats. All you need to do is get a gun and start shooting up shopping mall. happens often enough, look at those two muslim snipers did for a couple of days.
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Get ready for islamic extremism, they are not done with us by any means, and as each day passes without another attack on American soil, the more complacent America grows, worrying over personal wealth issues. I am quite confident Obama will get his turn in the terrorism barrel. That, my friends, will be when we find out what kind of president we have. Will he work the root and tell Pakistan we're coming for them,. like it or not? Until someone has the cods to do just that, there will be a steady stream of them. Oh yeah.........and accept collateral damage and deal with the negative repercussions of such.
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You can't fight terrorism. Terrorism is a tactic.
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Friedrich Nietzsche If we destroy our own Constitution and do the kinds of things they do to fight them, what is the point? We are becoming just what they are and might just as well surrender to begin with.
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Last edited by Rhys; 11-30-2008 at 03:55 PM. Reason: clicked on submit too soon! |
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And that's sayin' something. A stolen freighter full of terrorists is going to have a bit more of a difficult time getting as close to our shores as Somali pirates have getting to freighters. If you can't see the difference, you're beyond reason...
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Oh, wait, the territorial waters are two HUNDRED miles out, not 13 any more. Gee, this is still brilliant tho. I mean noone will ever notice a several thousand ton unregistered freighter with no papers just trundling up and down the shore. All our satellites and radar are useless, of course. I wonder why the Germans never thought of landing saboteurs from subs, or why smuggling isn't the biggest industry in the US Jefferson Christsmas why don't you just go and actually look for them under your bed, you're more likely to find them there.
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You are absolutely right. An attack like that in Mumbai could easily occur here...and Canada could play the Pakistani role at it is a notorious haven for terrorists. Canada needs to do more to stiffen its immigration policies and combat terrorists operating in its country.
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Re: Mumbai style attack could easily occur here
Uh, it did, about seven years ago? 9/11 ring a bell? Although 9/11 was more successful than the Mumbai attacks....
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99% of suicide attacks occur when the uniformed armed forces of a democracy occupy the homeland of the attackers.
Nobody used suicide attacks against the USSR, nobody uses suicide attacks against the Peoples Republic of China, or Syria or North Korea. The victims are the US, the UK, Spain, India, Israel, Indonesia and even Pakistan. Because a suicide attack is directed at public opinion, and public opinion can move a democracy, it won't move a country like North Korea. When democracies keep to themselves, defend their own borders and come to the aid of other democracies, they are not attacked. When they occupy foreign lands, they are a logical target of suicide attacks. Terrorism is what a militarily strong democracy calls attacks that bypass it's military might and strike directly at public opinion. Mumbai was an attack by a group that was responding to Indian occupation of it's homeland, the attack was aimed at the Indian public opinion, and the attackers hope it will move the situation in Kashmir. Our concept of security is based on the idea that if you try to attack us you are dead, it deters everyone who wishes to live more than they wish to harm us, but it's useless against people who don't care if they die. To end this kind of attack we need to resolve the underlying conflicts that create it. That means coming up with a way to end the Israeli occupation of Palestine, to end the Indian occupation of Kashmir, to end the US occupation of Iraq. Everybody says they want these things resolved, but there are those who profit by them continuing. Until these issues are resolved, the attacks will continue, there is no military solution, if there was then it would have worked long ago, because we have thrown tremendous resources into that avenue of attack. It just doesn't work.
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Do you seriously think Arabs not planning on doing that already? Muslims are crazy, they're not afraid to die and U.S. pissed them off big time, their kids will grow up pissed at you aswell, people like that will never forget, that's a war you should never have started..
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Why would they bother with all that? All they have to do is cross either of our borders at will. Thousands do it every day.
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I have two questions for you based on this little gem of yours: 1. Since when is the western Indian Ocean and the location of these particular pirate attacks even close to our coastal waters? 2. For one to conclude that the US Navy has demonstrated an "inability to stop pirates off Somalia" one would have to have seen some attempt, and a failed attempt at that, by the US Navy to do so. When did this happen in recent history?
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I think they already are, it's just hard to hear them deep inside their caves.
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