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Old 01-23-2009
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Re: Obama May Face War Crimes Charges

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No it was all that stuff he said about treating allies equal and not you know, bombing them...

Still, he'll learn the hard way.
He did the right thing, But let it be a lesson to liberals about hypocracy. Terrorists hide among civilians as we found out recently in Israel.
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Old 01-23-2009
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Re: Obama May Face War Crimes Charges

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Ah, so its you who's actually the confused one...nothing new there i guess.
Not in the least.

You've made the claim; you've failed to substantiate it.

The only things we know are:

A. Bush was in office
B. There were (except for Anthrax, which, of course, you forgot) no domestic terrorists attacks.

That's pretty much it. No direct causational relationship has been established.

Sorry that makes you so uncomfy.
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Re: Obama May Face War Crimes Charges

Okay fine, Bin Laden only ever wanted to attack us once and that was it. Nothing Bush did stopped him.

Have it your way.
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Okay fine, Bin Laden only ever wanted to attack us once and that was it. Nothing Bush did stopped him.

Have it your way.
Sorry, but that's not my opinion, either.
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Re: Obama May Face War Crimes Charges

If you don't see a connection between the actions we took after the attacks and the fact Bin Laden hasn't done anything since then there's no point in continuing this conversation.

But you seem like you wouldn't think that either...or would you?
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Re: Obama May Face War Crimes Charges

Well I can't agree with this action by Obama. I don't think it will turn out well.
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Old 01-23-2009
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Well I can't agree with this action by Obama. I don't think it will turn out well.
At least you shouldn't be surprised..... Obama has been a bigger hawk on Pakistan than almost anyone else.
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Re: Obama May Face War Crimes Charges

You say that like its a good thing...
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At least you shouldn't be surprised..... Obama has been a bigger hawk on Pakistan than almost anyone else.
I know. Unfortunate.
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Re: Obama May Face War Crimes Charges

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Okay fine, Bin Laden only ever wanted to attack us once and that was it. Nothing Bush did stopped him.

Have it your way.
There were 8 years between the first WTC attack while Clinton was in office, and 9/11 when Bush was in office. One could have argued that Clinton did something mysterious and magical to prevent attacks on america, but he didn't. And neither has Bush.

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Re: Obama May Face War Crimes Charges

You forgot all the other attacks inside those first 8 years.
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You say that like its a good thing...

Well, that's where Al Qaida's true safe haven is.

They migrated from Afghanistan to Pakistan. IMO, we should be partnering with Pakistan to root them out and where that doesn't work, acting unilaterally. If diplomatic relations with Pakistan's government decline, (because of this or other events) only then should we reconsider.

The alternative is letting the boil of Al Qaida grow unchecked...

And hey, if you supported the Iraq War, don't be feeding me bullshit about unilaterally attacking soveriegn nations.....
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Re: Obama May Face War Crimes Charges

Hey i have no problem unilaterally attacking nations, but Obama on the other hand seems to have big issues with it...

But you don't seriously see a problem with attacking a nuclear armed nation with predator drone strikes?

Anyway like you said we should be working with Pakistan, like you said.
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You forgot all the other attacks inside those first 8 years.
AQ never attacked on american soil between WTC in 93 and under Bush in 2001.

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Hey i have no problem unilaterally attacking nations, but Obama on the other hand seems to have big issues with it...

But you don't seriously see a problem with attacking a nuclear armed nation with predator drone strikes?

Anyway like you said we should be working with Pakistan, like you said.
I don't see a problem attacking a nuclear armed nation with predator drone strikes as long as we are not attacking the guys that control the nukes. So far, the nukes are safely in the hands of their military.

If we lose the trust of their military government, then we should cease activity within Pakistan and figure out what we can do.
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