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Re: HRW condemns Hamas torture and murder of political rivals
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You do so hate that Jewish lobby. No, Chocobot: the reason China and Russia don't have the political clout with Israel that we do is because they don't currently hold the purse strings to that chunk of aid to Israel. |
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Of course, its possible that this could be swapped for China or Russia but firstly, they do not see things in quite the same way the US does, they do not have a lobby making sure they see the ME in a particular way nor would isreal wish to be beholden to a power it cannot hope to influence as it can do so now. Moreover, when you ask yourself the simple question of what it would gain China or Russia to fund Isreal you can see its an unlikely scenario. The one thing in favour of your argument that ties can be easily swapped is that neither china nor russia give priority to 'human rights' stuff. But thats about it. Real change will come either when the changing demographics makes presence felt or when US politics finds the courage to face down AIPAC and such and pressure the isrealis to really stop building this time and recognise the two state solution - as it is Abbas and the PA have been playing nice for some time with no result.
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Labor is prior to, and independent of, capital. Capital is only the fruit of labor, and could never have existed if Labor had not first existed. Labor is superior to capital, and deserves much the higher consideration. Guess who? Last edited by Chocobot; 05-03-2009 at 09:08 AM. |
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Re: HRW condemns Hamas torture and murder of political rivals
As it would with anyone giving the amounts of money we give.
Personally, I prefer our having that sort of influence over a nation that says it has nuclear weapons (and Carter says so, too ) than China or Russia, for example.For those who would prefer another nation having that sort of influence, I disagree with them, but sometimes it pays to consider the alternates. It makes any personal angst about current situations less troublesome. |
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![]() You are so paranoid about nuclear exchanges/ terrorism etc.
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Re: HRW condemns Hamas torture and murder of political rivals
How adorable of you - projecting emotions onto me. But, it is true that I understand that non-proliferation is a sound concept.
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![]() I thought we could share the emotional projections. It brings us closer dont you think?
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Labor is prior to, and independent of, capital. Capital is only the fruit of labor, and could never have existed if Labor had not first existed. Labor is superior to capital, and deserves much the higher consideration. Guess who? |
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