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Old 07-01-2009
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Israel kidnaps Cynthia McKinney and a boat full of aid workers?

I just came across this link. I realize that this story is written in propaganda form but is there any truth here and if so then why hasn't this made headlines?

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Freegaza - ISRAEL ATTACKS JUSTICE BOAT; KIDNAPS HUMAN RIGHTS WORKERS; CONFISCATES MEDICINE, TOYS AND OLIVE TREES

Today Israeli Occupation Forces attacked and boarded the Free Gaza Movement boat, the SPIRIT OF HUMANITY, abducting 21 human rights workers from 11 countries, including Noble laureate Mairead Maguire and former U.S. Congresswoman Cynthia McKinney. The passengers and crew are being forcibly dragged toward Israel.

“This is an outrageous violation of international law against us. Our boat was not in Israeli waters, and we were on a human rights mission to the Gaza Strip,” said Cynthia McKinney, a former U.S. Congresswoman and presidential candidate. “President Obama just told Israel to let in humanitarian and reconstruction supplies, and that’s exactly what we tried to do. We’re asking the international community to demand our release so we can resume our journey.”

According to an International Committee of the Red Cross report released yesterday, the Palestinians living in Gaza are “trapped in despair.” Thousands of Gazans whose homes were destroyed earlier during Israel’s December/January massacre are still without shelter despite pledges of almost $4.5 billion in aid, because Israel refuses to allow cement and other building material into the Gaza Strip. The report also notes that hospitals are struggling to meet the needs of their patients due to Israel’s disruption of medical supplies.

“The aid we were carrying is a symbol of hope for the people of Gaza, hope that the sea route would open for them, and they would be able to transport their own materials to begin to reconstruct the schools, hospitals and thousands of homes destroyed during the onslaught of “Cast Lead”. Our mission is a gesture to the people of Gaza that we stand by them and that they are not alone” said fellow passenger Mairead Maguire, winner of a Noble Peace Prize for her work in Northern Ireland.

Just before being kidnapped by Israel, Huwaida Arraf, Free Gaza Movement chairperson and delegation co-coordinator on this voyage, stated that: “No one could possibly believe that our small boat constitutes any sort of threat to Israel. We carry medical and reconstruction supplies, and children’s toys. Our passengers include a Nobel peace prize laureate and a former U.S. congressperson. Our boat was searched and received a security clearance by Cypriot Port Authorities before we departed, and at no time did we ever approach Israeli waters.”

Arraf continued, “Israel’s deliberate and premeditated attack on our unarmed boat is a clear violation of international law and we demand our immediate and unconditional release.”
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Re: Israel kidnaps Cynthia McKinney and a boat full of aid workers?

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I just came across this link. I realize that this story is written in propaganda form but is there any truth here and if so then why hasn't this made headlines?
It`s quite simply Danny.

Nothing the Israelis commits of war crimes will EVER hit the headlines in the United States of America.
There just simply is a ban on that.

If the Americans wants to know what is actually going on in Gaza and The Westbank, they will have to, by themselves, seek information from other sources.

The red Cross or amnesty international could be examples.
Lots of other independant and reliable resources though.

You will just have to look for them by yourself, because FOX news for sure won`t present them for you, or any other american mainstream media for that matter.

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Re: Israel kidnaps Cynthia McKinney and a boat full of aid workers?

Israel never pays attention to trifles like international law or UN resolutions, because they have guaranteed US protection from all crimes they commit.
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Old 07-01-2009
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Re: Israel kidnaps Cynthia McKinney and a boat full of aid workers?

I can't find anything on this but rehashed articles of this same propaganda/article.

I would say if you remove "attack" with "stopped"..."kidnapped" with "detained for questioning" and "international waters" with 5 miles from Israeli shores...you may be closer to the truth.
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Re: Israel kidnaps Cynthia McKinney and a boat full of aid workers?

What I can`t understand, is that if Obama really want`s to show his goodwill to the palestinian people, why doesn`t he just load some American naval vessels with food, medicin, cement and what else it desparately needed since that horrific Israeli bombardment of Gaza back in january, and sail them into a port in Gaza?

He should be able to convince the Israelis, that American vessels dosn`t make up any security threat`s.

Why not put his boot`s where his mouth is. What is he afraid of?

That he will not be reelected?

Or purhaps another "Liberty" affair?


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Re: Israel kidnaps Cynthia McKinney and a boat full of aid workers?

Because if they've really kidnapped Cynthia McKinney, we're glad she's gone?

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Re: Israel kidnaps Cynthia McKinney and a boat full of aid workers?

This is absolutely senseless.
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Re: Israel kidnaps Cynthia McKinney and a boat full of aid workers?

CNN's version is here

Gaza group: Israel takes former U.S. rep into custody – The CNN Wire - CNN.com Blogs

This is actually an ongoing story, which HAS received some attention from the mainstream press over the past few months. Former Rep. McKinney held a news conference in which she announced that she would be joining the Free Gaza group and that she would be on board theSpirit of Humanity. She did so knowing that the Israelis had intercepted several previous vessels sponsored by this group and that some of their members had been detained. The Israelis responded by stating that McKinney would be treated like any other "criminal" who attempted to break their blockade of Gaza. Today's report is simply a culmination of McKinney's effort.

This mini-drama is being played out on a larger stage. The Israelis, who control access to Gaza, have severely limited the amount of food, fresh water, electricity, medical supplies, and fuel which can reach the population they hold captive there. They do so under the guise of preventing weapons from reaching elements which frequently launch attacks against Israeli forces. The fact that most (if not all) of what they block is vital to the health and well-being of the Palestinian people is of no concern to them. Their intention is to make the Palestinians suffer until all the attacks stop.

McKinney is a well-known American, but in this instance she represents no one, and may actually be in violation of US provisions which prohibit any but the President from conducting foreign policy. But the truth is that she cannot actually conduct foreign policy, nor does she have significant influence with those who do.

It is an ill wind that blows no good, but there seems to be nothing good going on here.
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Re: Israel kidnaps Cynthia McKinney and a boat full of aid workers?

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I just came across this link. I realize that this story is written in propaganda form but is there any truth here and if so then why hasn't this made headlines?
Isn't McKinney that black woman who went ape shit in an airport a while back?
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Re: Israel kidnaps Cynthia McKinney and a boat full of aid workers?

Cynthia McKinney is a truly brave woman. No other US politician would EVER have the courage to even attempt what she has done. Gaza is the most over populated piece of land on the planet, and with the Red Cross reporting an absolute humanitarian catastrophe occurring there; it’s inspiring to see at least not all American politicians continue to be submissive to the Israeli policy of collective punishment, which is illegal under the United Nations charter. Cynthia was not aiding Hamas (like Israel did Hamas is a Creation of Mossad), she was reaching out to Palestinian civilians who have nothing to do with terrorist organizations supported by the powers that be for the sake of a good healthy war. What makes her even braver in my eyes, is that she went through with her humanitarian mission, disregarding the fact that past UN human rights workers have been killed by the IDF.
Israeli strike kills at least 1 aid worker, U.N. says - CNN.com
Most people who despise this strong woman know little to nothing about her. Most of these people cannot stand seeing American politics extend past the narrow and carefully guided spectrum of what’s considered "acceptable politics." The same politics which are perpetuated by compliant media channels which have kept the American public unaware and distracted from every US war crime from Iran in 1953 to Chile in 1973 to Nicaragua thought the 80's to Cambodia, to Argentina, to Angola, or East Timor.
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Re: Israel kidnaps Cynthia McKinney and a boat full of aid workers?

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I can't find anything on this but rehashed articles of this same propaganda/article.

I would say if you remove "attack" with "stopped"..."kidnapped" with "detained for questioning" and "international waters" with 5 miles from Israeli shores...you may be closer to the truth.


But the Israelis does not have the legal authority to stop or detain for questioning in international waters, that are not within Israeli shores.
Gaza has its own coastline, that Israel can not legally approach, much less interfere with.

That part that is so outrageous is that Palestine existed before Israel was made from part of it, and now Israel acts as if it owns all of Palestine.
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Re: Israel kidnaps Cynthia McKinney and a boat full of aid workers?

The Gaza Ghetto.
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Re: Israel kidnaps Cynthia McKinney and a boat full of aid workers?

its getting to become a habit for her to make a little news


there is a naval blockade, no passing that no matter who you are.
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Re: Israel kidnaps Cynthia McKinney and a boat full of aid workers?

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its getting to become a habit for her to make a little news


there is a naval blockade, no passing that no matter who you are.
Under international law, such a blockade is illegal.
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I just came across this link. I realize that this story is written in propaganda form but is there any truth here and if so then why hasn't this made headlines?
Im ok with this. They were trying to run a blockade. I bet they wanted to get caught so they could make news.
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