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Re: West Bank vs. Gaza - Palestinians have a clear choice

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The reason acquisition of land through conquest was made illegal by international law, in the 1930's, was because otherwise there would be no way to reduce war.
Maps have been heavily re-drawn since the 1930s DUE TO WARS, so stop lying and go read a book.

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And Israel started the 1967 conflict.
Does this idiocy even need to be responded to?
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OMG! How dare you use such logic! Didn't you know that it's the Israeli's god given rights to have a manifest destiny in the middle east? They need all that land to have a place for all their fuck trophies!
Yeah, that's why the Israelis are in, after 60 fucking years, an addition 1.5% of the WB, whooo boy, they really are the world's fastest conquerors.

Which rock did you crawl out of?
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Re: West Bank vs. Gaza - Palestinians have a clear choice

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they didn't steal it they won it...hello, 1967?
You can't "win" land in a war, it's against International law.
All land gets returned after a conflict, all refugees have the right to return home.
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If Israel will not give back ALL of the illegal settlements, and pay compensation for ALL the homes confiscated inside of Israel, then Hamas and Hezbolla are the only answers left to the Palestinians.
The only solution is for:

A-the paid for apologists like yourself to get the FO the internet
B-the outside influences like iran and SA to stop paying for terrorists to continue driving the conflict
C-the leftist news media to stop fawning over the nonsensical lie that the pal arabs are "victims" - have gone 10 years without buying the NY Times now, and that will not change as they slide inevitably into bankruptcy...
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Re: West Bank vs. Gaza - Palestinians have a clear choice

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Unfortunately PeaceNow would like to make this thread about the Palestinians, however, its really about the Isrealis, as they have the power to dramatically change the situation.
I am convinced that you are paid to be here. Noone with any intelligence could possibly come up with these lines on their own.
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No, the Golan Heights is not Israel's, and it was Israel that forced Syria to act by massacre of Palestinian villages, like Dier Yassin.
Wrong idiot. Deir yassin had nothing to do with syria. You can go back to your blocks and elmo toys now...

And for the other posters here defending the arabs, since you seem to be clinging so hard to the notion that land cannot be gained by war, why are none of you mentioning the 1948 war STARTED by the arabs?
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Idiocy. Thus you would approve of continued conflict, since war is a justification of itself.

For example, if Syria invaded the Golan and successfully took it back, would you applaud this?

Anyway, it was Isreal that fucked with Syria, in response to pressure from Isreali farmers. Even IDF generals admit that. You are being suckered.
Do you think there was no combat or fighting before June 67? That Egypt and Syria were not already sending in fedayeen into israel, not already firing mortars into the country, already blockading the country? That israel just decided to send its army into the Golan unprovoked?

Get some facts, sweetie - b/c right now, you don't have any.
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You can't "win" land in a war, it's against International law.
All land gets returned after a conflict, all refugees have the right to return home.
Uh, yeah, ok whatever you say BWahahwhahahaha.
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Uh, yeah, ok whatever you say BWahahwhahahaha.
I've read about 6 or 7 of your posts where they've been filled with insult after insult, yet lacking in substance or any reasoned argument. Your attempt at bullying people is transparently pathetic. Telling people to "STFU" and "FO" as if you're the arbiter of whom gets to speak and who gets to post on this forum. Calling people "idiots", as if that's reasoned debate, or just because they have a different viewpoint from you.

In other words, you're a dick. Yes, that's an insult, and I think well-deserved.
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Maps have been heavily re-drawn since the 1930s DUE TO WARS, so stop lying and go read a book.

Does this idiocy even need to be responded to?

Sure maps are redrawn after wars and other times, but they do not reflect conquest anymore.

For example, after WWII, Poland got back land that had been taken before.
That was not because Poland invaded and won it.

Did Japan and Germany lose land because they lost the war?
No.
They only lost land they had illegally taken by war.
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Yeah, that's why the Israelis are in, after 60 fucking years, an addition 1.5% of the WB, whooo boy, they really are the world's fastest conquerors.

Which rock did you crawl out of?

Which is more of the West Bank then they should be in, because they are not supposed to be in any of the West Bank.
In fact, Israel is not supposed to even be in Jerusalem at all.
Look at a map of 1948 Israel, as the UN divided it.
You will see that Jerusalem is no where near to any Israeli territory, and almost every single town and village inside the Israeli half is most Arab.
It has taken 60 years for the Israelis to confiscate the land from the Arabs in the Israeli half of Palestine, so only now are they really driving for the Arab half as well.
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Re: West Bank vs. Gaza - Palestinians have a clear choice

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The only solution is for:

A-the paid for apologists like yourself to get the FO the internet
B-the outside influences like iran and SA to stop paying for terrorists to continue driving the conflict
C-the leftist news media to stop fawning over the nonsensical lie that the pal arabs are "victims" - have gone 10 years without buying the NY Times now, and that will not change as they slide inevitably into bankruptcy...

Why do you think there should be an Israel at all, and how do you ignore the fact Israel has continually gone beyond the 1948 partition, such as illegally annexing Jerusalem?
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Re: West Bank vs. Gaza - Palestinians have a clear choice

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Wrong idiot. Deir yassin had nothing to do with syria. You can go back to your blocks and elmo toys now...

And for the other posters here defending the arabs, since you seem to be clinging so hard to the notion that land cannot be gained by war, why are none of you mentioning the 1948 war STARTED by the arabs?

The population of Syria is ethnically the same as Palestine, and shares the same language and culture.
So one can not slaughter Palestinians without upsetting Syrians.
It is like someone started slaughtering Canadians.
We would likely go to their defense.

The point is that the massacre at Dier Yassin was committed by Zionists who became leaders of Israel, so is proof how Israel is illegitimate.
And that Israel started the 1948 war with these massacres.
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Re: West Bank vs. Gaza - Palestinians have a clear choice

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Do you think there was no combat or fighting before June 67? That Egypt and Syria were not already sending in fedayeen into israel, not already firing mortars into the country, already blockading the country? That israel just decided to send its army into the Golan unprovoked?

Get some facts, sweetie - b/c right now, you don't have any.

Israel started the fighting before 1948 by massacring Arab villages.
Look at a map of the 1948 conflict, and you will see that the main fighting was an offensive by the Zionists, towards Jerusalem.
Look at any of the wars, and you will always see offensive attacks by Israel, against Arab land.

Why would there be a push by the Zionists towards Jerusalem in 1948, unless the 1948 war was an attempt by Israel to capture Jerusalem?
If Israel was defending from an attack, then there would not have been any fighting outside of Israel.
But that is where most of the fighting happened.

Yes, Israel invaded Golan unprovoked, just as it invaded Jerusalem unprovoked, just at it invaded Lebanon unproviked, just as it invaded Gaza unprovoked.

If you want proof that Zionists started the 1948 war, just look at the letters of apology sent by Jews who were embarrassed by the Zionist massarces. Albert Einstein is one of the signers, to a letter to the New York Times.
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Re: West Bank vs. Gaza - Palestinians have a clear choice

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You must not to be able to think to hard, because all over the world maps have been re-drawn since WW2.
Indeed? With US backing, as I said?
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