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Old 09-16-2009
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If Pres. Obama Extends Patriot Act...He's No Liberal



He's just a moderate Republican
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Old 09-16-2009
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Re: If Pres. Obama Extends Patriot Act...He's No Liberal

How can he be a Republican? I thought that Republicans were all racist against anyone that is a minority. At least that is what MSNBC, CNN, and the others keep saying.

Besides... he voted for this shit the first time. Did you not know this?
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Old 09-16-2009
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Re: If Pres. Obama Extends Patriot Act...He's No Liberal

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He's just a moderate Republican
He's never been a liberal, Hoss. Only the delusional have ever thought otherwise.
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Old 09-16-2009
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Re: If Pres. Obama Extends Patriot Act...He's No Liberal

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He's never been a liberal, Hoss. Only the delusional have ever thought otherwise.
You're right, B.O.'s philosophies have always gone far, far beyond liberalism. I won't use the "S" word, or the "M" word, I know how that upsets you so.
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Old 09-16-2009
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Re: If Pres. Obama Extends Patriot Act...He's No Liberal

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He's never been a liberal, Hoss. Only the delusional have ever thought otherwise.
Which was an awful lot of folks who voted for him.
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Old 09-16-2009
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Re: If Pres. Obama Extends Patriot Act...He's No Liberal

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Which was an awful lot of folks who voted for him.
Sure is.
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Old 09-16-2009
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Re: If Pres. Obama Extends Patriot Act...He's No Liberal

The Patriot Act gave the Federal government broad new powers, that does not sound very conservative to me. Real conservatives like Ron Paul have consistently opposed it. Both parties overwhelmingly will support the Act when it benefits them or their guy is in power. Business as usual.
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Re: If Pres. Obama Extends Patriot Act...He's No Liberal

If Pres. Obama Extends Patriot Act...

Time to call on Chinese to come and spread some democracy and freedom!
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Re: If Pres. Obama Extends Patriot Act...He's No Liberal

But you'll vote for him again.
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Old 09-17-2009
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Re: If Pres. Obama Extends Patriot Act...He's No Liberal

he was never a liberal, and neither are Dems.
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Re: If Pres. Obama Extends Patriot Act...He's No Liberal

What does wanting to see a strong domestic security policy have to do with politics?

One of the most fascist acts of all time was conducted by FDR, when he locked up thousands of Americans Italian, German, and Japanese birth.

People need to learn to dissassociate politics with policy. Just because one party proposes and enacts something, that does not automatically mean that the other party opposes it.
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Re: If Pres. Obama Extends Patriot Act...He's No Liberal

If Al-quida get through again, thats the end of his .

He doesn't want his Presidency to end.
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Re: If Pres. Obama Extends Patriot Act...He's No Liberal

the "Patriot Act" is a Republican/ neoCon construct and idealism, Obama and the intel people would have no trouble getting a warrant for those targets they tell us they need to fight.

It it all highly illegal then, and now to permanently keep this law going.

"Death of their Liberty, Feeds the Supremacy"
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Re: If Pres. Obama Extends Patriot Act...He's No Liberal

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the "Patriot Act" is a Republican/ neoCon construct and idealism, Obama and the intel people would have no trouble getting a warrant for those targets they tell us they need to fight.

It it all highly illegal then, and now to permanently keep this law going.

"Death of their Liberty, Feeds the Supremacy"
One of the things I find ironic in charges like this is when you look at the list of states that claim it is a violation of civil rights. Those states that have passed resolutions against it are Texas, Alaska, Idaho, Colorado, Maine, California, Hawaii, Montana, and Vermont.

Most of these states have also joined the "10th Ammendment" movement as well.

If it is so "highly illegal", why has the Supreme Court not struck it down yet?
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Re: If Pres. Obama Extends Patriot Act...He's No Liberal

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"Death of their Liberty, Feeds the Supremacy"

which is why "progressives love it. socialists even more.
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