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Re: If Pres. Obama Extends Patriot Act...He's No Liberal
He's never been a liberal, Hoss. Only the delusional have ever thought otherwise.
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Re: If Pres. Obama Extends Patriot Act...He's No Liberal
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Re: If Pres. Obama Extends Patriot Act...He's No Liberal
Which was an awful lot of folks who voted for him.
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Re: If Pres. Obama Extends Patriot Act...He's No Liberal
The Patriot Act gave the Federal government broad new powers, that does not sound very conservative to me. Real conservatives like Ron Paul have consistently opposed it. Both parties overwhelmingly will support the Act when it benefits them or their guy is in power. Business as usual.
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Re: If Pres. Obama Extends Patriot Act...He's No Liberal
But you'll vote for him again.
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Re: If Pres. Obama Extends Patriot Act...He's No Liberal
he was never a liberal, and neither are Dems.
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Re: If Pres. Obama Extends Patriot Act...He's No Liberal
What does wanting to see a strong domestic security policy have to do with politics?
One of the most fascist acts of all time was conducted by FDR, when he locked up thousands of Americans Italian, German, and Japanese birth. People need to learn to dissassociate politics with policy. Just because one party proposes and enacts something, that does not automatically mean that the other party opposes it. |
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Re: If Pres. Obama Extends Patriot Act...He's No Liberal
If Al-quida get through again, thats the end of his .
He doesn't want his Presidency to end.
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January 21, 2013: The End of an ERROR. "Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become more corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." "When the people find that they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic." "The Constitution only gives people the right to pursue happiness. You have to catch it yourself." ---Benjamin Franklin |
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Re: If Pres. Obama Extends Patriot Act...He's No Liberal
the "Patriot Act" is a Republican/ neoCon construct and idealism, Obama and the intel people would have no trouble getting a warrant for those targets they tell us they need to fight.
It it all highly illegal then, and now to permanently keep this law going. "Death of their Liberty, Feeds the Supremacy" |
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Most of these states have also joined the "10th Ammendment" movement as well. If it is so "highly illegal", why has the Supreme Court not struck it down yet? |
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Re: If Pres. Obama Extends Patriot Act...He's No Liberal
which is why "progressives love it. socialists even more.
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