Thread: State of Israel is a Terrorist Jewish State

Originally Posted by Disillusioned_1

Congratulations on completely ignoring the Jewish acts of terror directed at British targets even before Israel was formed. What exactly did that have to do with muslims?

There were none.

Originally Posted by Edwin30

There were none.

Henceforth all of your claims on the issue of Israel will be completely disregarded. I suppose the attack on the USS Liberty never happened either.

A "Jewish State" is a component of racism, if your not jewish, your not equal.

The 'muslim' states you talk about are naturally 99% muslim, unlike Israel which was naturally 80% muslim, 13% Christian, and the rest jews and other.. the zionists came from europe in order to change that and make it a "Jewish State"-the ideology is a declaration of war in itself..

and the jews from europe are originally khazarian, from the caucusese, not aramiac or arabic jews (semetic), thats why they are white people, thats what throus the whole 'superior' claim argument

saying "Jews are the Masters" is obviously a racist perspective..

The arabs 'invaded' from arabia only to push the byzantines out, thus allowing the jews back into palestine, they did it again to kick the crusaders out and allowed jews to live in any arab area, thats why you hade Palestinian, iraqi, syrian, iranian, morrocan jews in the first place!

now in the 20th century these "ashkenazi" or kazarian Jews from europe show up say they have superior claim to the country than the indeginous population-looks more like crusaders than the aramaic jews of many earlier centuries!

Thats the whole point, zionism is a "crusader" violent campaign

Originally Posted by Edwin30

Zionism is merely Jewish self-determination, which every people are entitled to. Zionism has no racist components and suggesting otherwise is racist and anti-Semitic.

If you are opposed to racism, I recommend you turn your selective attention to the Muslim countries and Arab countries.

Ha. There are 25 Arab countries and 55 Islamic countries, thus, your statement is inane.

Israel existed well before Arabs invaded from Arabia, where they originated.

Jews are the true masters of Palestine.

In case anyone is ignorant on the topic enough to believe Ed's ridiculous claims, here is some reading material.

Irgun - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

and

http://www.caabu.org/pdf/Israeli-Arabs-final.pdf

Originally Posted by joyb

A "Jewish State" is a component of racism, if your not jewish, your not equal.

Completely untrue. Arabic is a national language in Israel. Any non-Jew in Israel with a grievance has the right to petition the courts.

There are several dozen countries with state religions, including 55 "Islamic Republics"

The 'muslim' states you talk about are naturally 99% muslim, unlike Israel which was naturally 80% muslim, 13% Christian, and the rest jews and other.. the zionists came from europe in order to change that and make it a "Jewish State"-the ideology is a declaration of war in itself..

"Naturally Muslim"? Even you can't say this with a straight face. Non-Muslims are prohibited from living in Muslim countries unless they live as dhimmis.

[quote...and the jews from europe are originally khazarian, from the caucusese, not aramiac or arabic jews (semetic), thats why they are white people, thats what throus the whole 'superior' claim argument [/quote]

Who cares where the Jewish immigrants originated from? Arabs in Palestine originated from the Arabian Peninsula.

saying "Jews are the Masters" is obviously a racist perspective..

Jews are the first inhabitants of Palestine. Thus, the masters.

European Jews have every right to live in Palestine. There are no laws prohibiting them from doing so.

Obviously the 4 million Palestinians in the WB and Gaza have NO rights and live in bantustans which they are confined to, they don't vote or have freedom of movement out of their bnatustan-prison, if they were able to have equal righst then it would be called Palestine-Israel and it would be free..you can't pretend this country is democratic when it is clearly not, the jews from europe have a right to live their but the indeginous palestinians don't, the point is just because someone is jewish doesn't mean they come from there, like not all muslims come from mecca or saudi arabia, so giving jews 'master' rights when Palestinians have 'secondary' rights is an excuse for racism.

It's like saying the Chinese can come to America and ethnically cleanse, bantanize, expel, oppress everyone who lives there because the original inhabitants came accross the bearing strait up from what is today china-going back thousands of years like that to lay claim is not done anywhere else in the world-only the zionists have done this.

The non-muslims that live in those 'islamic' states like Saudi Arabia are mostly foreign workers, where in iran they are a minority much less than 30 20 or even 10% .. in iran they can vote in the election, and sit in the cabnet..in israel these things are banned..

I'm not an advocate for an 'islamic state' but simply those other countries are not contested, when the population of a state is 50/50 and yet it's a "jewish state" theres the problem

Originally Posted by Edwin30

Completely untrue. Arabic is a national language in Israel. Any non-Jew in Israel with a grievance has the right to petition the courts.

There are several dozen countries with state religions, including 55 "Islamic Republics"



"Naturally Muslim"? Even you can't say this with a straight face. Non-Muslims are prohibited from living in Muslim countries unless they live as dhimmis.

[quote...and the jews from europe are originally khazarian, from the caucusese, not aramiac or arabic jews (semetic), thats why they are white people, thats what throus the whole 'superior' claim argument

Who cares where the Jewish immigrants originated from? Arabs in Palestine originated from the Arabian Peninsula.



Jews are the first inhabitants of Palestine. Thus, the masters.

European Jews have every right to live in Palestine. There are no laws prohibiting them from doing so.[/QUOTE]

The Goldstone United Nations report has hit a nerve with the Israeli government because it high-lights one piece of the truth that has gone on for decades. The true facts on the ground and the realities of truth are clearly in the Palestinian people’s favor. United States Ambassador Susan Rice called for the an end to “anti-Israel vitriol” attacks at the United Nation in Jerusalem while the United States-European and the State of Israel play out two weeks of war games. The United States and the State of Israel are the master of mass media manipulation of the truth to cover their path of sins and crimes of the past. Prime Minister Netanyahu address to the United Nation in Sept. 2009 epitomizes this so well. Talking about the Goldstone Report, Holocaust and the Islamic terrorists as Israeli’s right to do anything to defend her self.
What the State of Israel has done in the name of defense is to create a Slowocaust with a very sophisticated high tech military industrial complex over the last sixty years. Today it is only Israelis that can make better military hardware and software than the United States military industrial complex. For two weeks they will test the software and hardware of these missiles near Gaza and the West Bank where the Palestinian people have been living imprisoned under Israel military control for years. So something as simple as a plane helicopter, or jet flying over head has a totally different meaning and feeling that someone who lives under imprisoned occupation for so long.
The latest military actions the State of Israel that has done outside borders of Israel proper must be investigated and those worthy of trial must be tried before the International Court of Law. Including the bombings, military attacks and occupation of Lebanon, Syria, Gaza, West Bank and Iran. Only after the State of Israel has been held accountable for its illegal military and social action against the Palestinian people and dramatic internal political changes are made. Then the State of Israel should be respected as South Africa and Germany are today within the global community of nations.
So if United States Ambassador Susan Rice wants to bring an end to the “anti-Israel vitriol” attacks by the international community of nations. Have the United States government put the pressure on the government of Israel to change her evil ways of today and to make amends with the Palestinian people. The transformation of Germany and South Africa would have never taken place without the global international pressure being applied. The same kind of international pressure has to be applied on the State of Israel to make the reforms that are needed to gain acceptance and respect within the international community of nations.
Peace Reform Initiative in the Middle East

Originally Posted by David2004

The Goldstone United Nations report has hit a nerve with the Israeli government because it high-lights one piece of the truth that has gone on for decades. The true facts on the ground and the realities of truth are clearly in the Palestinian people’s favor. United States Ambassador Susan Rice called for the an end to “anti-Israel vitriol” attacks at the United Nation in Jerusalem while the United States-European and the State of Israel play out two weeks of war games. The United States and the State of Israel are the master of mass media manipulation of the truth to cover their path of sins and crimes of the past. Prime Minister Netanyahu address to the United Nation in Sept. 2009 epitomizes this so well. Talking about the Goldstone Report, Holocaust and the Islamic terrorists as Israeli’s right to do anything to defend her self.
What the State of Israel has done in the name of defense is to create a Slowocaust with a very sophisticated high tech military industrial complex over the last sixty years. Today it is only Israelis that can make better military hardware and software than the United States military industrial complex. For two weeks they will test the software and hardware of these missiles near Gaza and the West Bank where the Palestinian people have been living imprisoned under Israel military control for years. So something as simple as a plane helicopter, or jet flying over head has a totally different meaning and feeling that someone who lives under imprisoned occupation for so long.
The latest military actions the State of Israel that has done outside borders of Israel proper must be investigated and those worthy of trial must be tried before the International Court of Law. Including the bombings, military attacks and occupation of Lebanon, Syria, Gaza, West Bank and Iran. Only after the State of Israel has been held accountable for its illegal military and social action against the Palestinian people and dramatic internal political changes are made. Then the State of Israel should be respected as South Africa and Germany are today within the global community of nations.
So if United States Ambassador Susan Rice wants to bring an end to the “anti-Israel vitriol” attacks by the international community of nations. Have the United States government put the pressure on the government of Israel to change her evil ways of today and to make amends with the Palestinian people. The transformation of Germany and South Africa would have never taken place without the global international pressure being applied. The same kind of international pressure has to be applied on the State of Israel to make the reforms that are needed to gain acceptance and respect within the international community of nations.
Peace Reform Initiative in the Middle East

You are absolute right David, and at some point it will change.

The monster, that modern Israel has developed itself into, will eventually tip over.
Either it will destroy itself from within, or the rest of the world will get so tired and fed up with the behavior of this rogue state, that they will stop to protect it, and stop turning the blind eye to every crime they are committing.

I hope I will live to se the end of the Israel that we know today, and another Israel emerge, where the Israelis are living within legal international borders, and their neighbours also will have the ability to live a decent life.

And I think the tide has begun to turn.

Israel is completely dependant of being sponsored by one single other nation, the United States of America.

American voter`s, who have, until a few years ago, been absolutely protected and shielded from any reel informations of what is going on in the middle east, can now for themself go on the internet, and directly see videos and pictures of what happens over there.

Of couse there will, for many years to come, still be a lot of American citizens, who`s vision of Israel is so firmly cemented, that nothing is going to change it.
But there will also be a new and growing generation, that perhaps will not like what they are now able to se, and start asking themselfes questions.
And if there is something nation`s like Israel does NOT like, it is being dragged into the sunlight, where the ugly spots can really be seen.
The Goldstone report is showing that with all the clarity you could ask for.

The day these people will become a voting majority in America, which I am convinced will happen, will be the end of the state of Israel as we know it today.

More and more people in europe, are also deeply unhappy with what is going on in Gaza and the West bank.
Lots of places in europe you will see an economical boycott of Israeli articles, Turkey is right now turning it`s back to them.
The entire population`s, (not necessarily the US sponsored governments), of the rest of the arab and muslim countries, hates them with all their heart`s.

Many Israelis have grown so custom to the complete protection of the United States, and some present europian government`s, that they have developed an overblown selfconfidence, and are self assured, that the answer to all of this is more military force and brutality.

Other Israelis are beginning to worry, if what they are doing now, might some day return with a vengeance.
And I think they should be worried.


Jen

Link to Bill Moyers interview with Justice Richard Goldstone, who headed up the controversial UN Human Rights Council investigation into fighting in Gaza between Israel and Hamas.

Bill Moyers Journal . Watch & Listen | PBS

Originally Posted by David2004

Link to Bill Moyers interview with Justice Richard Goldstone, who headed up the controversial UN Human Rights Council investigation into fighting in Gaza between Israel and Hamas.

Bill Moyers Journal . Watch & Listen | PBS

thank you very much for the link David, It was most interesting.

I know, that US officials and others have promissed Israel, that this report, even though it was endorsed by The UN Human Rights Council, will not pass the Security council, and thereby granting the International Criminal Court jurisdiction over the crimes.

But they are definately going to have a hard time finding a good reason for this blocking.
It is going to be most interesting, to see how they are going to twist that.
Something equal to defending that the earth is flat, perhaps


Jen

[QUOTE=David2004;1546609]The Palestinians, Arab nations as well as the nations of the world should recognize the terrorist Jewish State of Israel. The acts of Israeli Jewish terror against the indigenous Palestinian population for over sixty years has been very well documented [/quoite]

Jews are the indigenous population. Jews lived in Canaan and Judea at least 2000 years before Muhammad was even hatched.

Israel is the only country in the Arab Muslim terrorist Middle East cesspool that respects human rights and civil liberties.

Originally Posted by David2004

Talking about the Goldstone Report, Holocaust and the Islamic terrorists as Israeli’s right to do anything to defend her self.

And if to take into account that thousands of Jews were either top Nazis or supported Nazism, Zionists have a lot to answer for with regard to hijacking Holocaust rememberance.

Originally Posted by Edwin30

You just made that BS up.

.

No, I did not.

«HITLER'S JEWISH SOLDIERS» - SHIMON BRIMAN

also during Nurnberg trial Hans Frank gave evidence that Hitler's grandfather was a Jew...

and look up Judenrat and Ordnungsdienst...