This behaviour is not new. Israel and its zionist supporters have always tried and continue to try to wipe out palestinians from their land.

This is the behaviour of a fragile state that is afraid. Its existance is in jeopardy and their destruction will take place with their very own hands. It cannot exist if it continues to behave like this... they have no choice but to accept a two state solution or continue to behave like animals and bully the palestinian people.

WS.

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Then quite a few Jews are anti-Semitic

And, yes, I do strongly suspect that site is very biased and extremist, but there also seems little doubt that there is legitimate controversy over the equating of Zionism with Judaism even within the Jewish community. This would be particularly the case if you consider the matter within the context of accepting Israel's right to exist and just not oppressing the many Arabs who live in Israel.

And I am aware that Arabs are probably freer in Israel than they would be in most other Arab nations. Still something close to 70% of Arabs who live in Israel do not consider Israel a democracy for them. There must be some kind of reason for that.

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Yes, and the reason is that they don't want to risk themselves and their families being murdered by terrorists and gangsters for 'collaboration'. Around 50% of Israeli Arabs get their 'news' from Al Jazeera, and over 40% of them think the Holocaust never happened. Then there is the fact that they don't seem to be rushing to leave and go live with their fellow Arabs in an Arab state, so, I would guess claiming to be 'unhappy' is just a ploy to get more bennies from the State and a Pity Party being thrown for them at the UN.

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"A day without sunshine is, you know, night."- Shannon

Indeed ... In other news, Obama has approved assassinations of terrorist leaders, where ever they are to be found, continuing a policy that was revived under Bush after 9/11, and one for which Israel was always unjustly criticized for, mainly because it worked fine; funny how perspectives change when it's your country that is being targeted for terrorist attacks. In any case, Obama needs to grow up and realize who his real allies are over there, and deep six all that rubbish he learned at the Rev. Wright's knee. Not that I think he will, but sooner or later his snubbing of Israel will bite him, particularly in the area of HumInt in the ME.

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"A day without sunshine is, you know, night."- Shannon

Jews don't count in their world; in fact, one of the main branches of their 'talking points tree' is that there aren't nearly enough dead Jews. They like to call it 'disproportionate responses by Israel to terrorist attacks'; they actually think that phrase covers their antisemtism.

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"A day without sunshine is, you know, night."- Shannon

Ever hear of a secret ballot, they have them in polls too.

On the one hand you say the Arabs are victims of their own people and then use that as an excuse for the Israelis victimising them further.

Why should the Arabs leave? They live there and have for thousands of years. It's like the secessionists and separatists over here, they have every full right as I do to try and change the government to their liking but good or bad, I live here. And I'll be god DAMNED if someone is throwing me out of my home.

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Having to make up issues to respond to is a sign of not having a thing to say about what was actually said.

I never said Israel was victimizing anybody, nor making an excuse for them doing so.

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"A day without sunshine is, you know, night."- Shannon

Such "CHUTZPAH" ! e.g. A man kills his mother and father and then asks the court for mercy because he's an orphan.


1. With allies like Israel who needs enemies.

2. "NO ONE" IMO has the "right" to order assassination of anyone.

3. England had NO GOD GIVEN RIGHT to partition Palestine in the first place.
and Truman should not have gone along with the idea.

4. As remarked on a news show today; Driving by a grammar school bus
stop take a good look at those little tikes and think about the fact they
will virtually all be cannon fodder for the wars of the middle east.
(re the concept we must remain there for years).

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Well they sure suck at wiping them out, they control most of the water, most of the electricity and have a top 20 military and haven't wiped them out yet in 60 years it's like they are hardly trying at all.

The right of conquest. Just like everyone else who had their hands on palestine for two thousand years.

Israel is too GD humane. They should have expelled the Pallies in '48 after kicking their asses in the war.

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Israel is one of the most reliable allies the US has, if not the most reliable.

The US has such a policy. Iarael has no less of a right.

England won Palestine in defeat of the Ottoman Turks. England could do whatever England wanted to do.

The little Muslim tikes often grow up to become jihadists. Sometimes, they need not even grow up to wear a bomb belt.

With all the TV channels on cable and satellite with nothing on to watch, it's time to allocate just one of those channels to Arab TV; one week of those broadcasts and the kind of stuff they show and it will be immediately obvious to any 6 year old who and what the problem is, and it ain't 'Zionism'.

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"A day without sunshine is, you know, night."- Shannon

Considering the Guiles of the Jewish people one would think they would recognize "antisemitism" used as a shield for many actions has become archaic for those purposes.

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Apparently you're completely unaware of just how psychotically paranoid the average 'Arab' is; everything, especially polls, are Mossad and CIA black ops designed to spy on them and set them up for blackmail and assassination, in their minds, so answering anything honestly isn't going to happen with the majority of them, whether they're in Israel, Europe, or the U.S., and they certainly aren't give honest answers to strangers if they're in Gaza, the West Bank, or 90% of the Arab countries, and only slightly less so for any country with a Muslim government.


They're the ones most unhappy with having to live with Jews and other people as equal citizens and having to respect their rights, so naturally they should leave; the vast majority of them aren't native to the region, and they would be much happier under Syrian, Egyptian, and Jordanian rule, where most of them came from in the first place; the only reason they stay is because massive UN aid and money makes them far better off than they would be where they belong. Those Arabs that can get along with their neighbors don't have a problem with Jews moving back to the West Bank, since the only time there weren't any Jews there was after the illegal Arab League invasion, ethnic cleansing, and illegal occupation from 1947-48 to 1967.

No, most of them have lived there for about a hundred years, and most of those less than a hundred. You seem to think that every Arab in the West Bank and Gaza are 'refugees or something; that isn't the case.

And the people they murder and butcher have every right to wipe them out in self-defense, something they have refused to do, for some reason only they know.

And of course Jews were never from that area of the ME, and haven't lived there for thousands of years ... they all came from Europe ... right?

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"A day without sunshine is, you know, night."- Shannon