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Re: BBC: Torture Continues at Bagram, Afghanistan (Under Bush's 3rd Term) ...
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ideological ? nah Amnesty Int'l redefines 'war crimes' | Jerusalem Post "Human rights´ Groups such as Amnesty International are Part of the Problem, not the Solution"
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Re: BBC: Torture Continues at Bagram, Afghanistan (Under Bush's 3rd Term) ...
This idea that Obama is Bush's third term was predicted by the WSJ - amazing. God I hate yuppies!
![]() Bush's Third Term, JULY 2, 2008 ![]() "We're beginning to understand why Barack Obama keeps protesting so vigorously against the prospect of "George Bush's third term." Maybe he's worried that someone will notice that he's the candidate who's running for it. Most Presidential candidates adapt their message after they win their party nomination, but Mr. Obama isn't merely "running to the center." He's fleeing from many of his primary positions so markedly and so rapidly that he's embracing a sizable chunk of President Bush's policy. Who would have thought that a Democrat would rehabilitate the much-maligned Bush agenda?" Bush's Third Term - WSJ.com Then the progressives, post facto: thank you! Bush's Third Term? You're Living It by David Swanson It sounds like the plot for the latest summer horror movie. Imagine, for a moment, that George W. Bush had been allowed a third term as president... Bush's Third Term? You're Living It | CommonDreams.org __________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ ______________ Last edited by theGhoul; 2 Weeks Ago at 12:49 PM. |
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Re: BBC: Torture Continues at Bagram, Afghanistan (Under Bush's 3rd Term) ...
You guys realize that we on the right are laughing our heads off at both the irony and that your heads are exploding, right?
If Obama is not liberal enough for you... well maybe China might be a better place for you... or get used to being in a far, far, far, left minority |
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We aren't saying there is no place for NeoConservatism is the U.S., there is ... it's called jail. Maybe then Cheney can learn about about extreme temperatures, hanging from the ceiling, and the pulling of arms out of the sockets, (and these kinds of things) ... A sort of supermax for NeoCons, whad'ya think, fair ???
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Re: BBC: Torture Continues at Bagram, Afghanistan (Under Bush's 3rd Term) ...
I'm really beginning to think that when you become POTUS, it's like that show or that movie, I can't remember, where the new president on day one gets sat down in the Situation Room, they show him a bunch of footage of JFK's assassination from angles we've never been privy to see, and they basically say, "go against us and that'll happen to you".
I swear that's gotta be what's going on in America today, because it's leaders are infected with the ridiculous notion that they can somehow fix the world using force. That they can win in Afghanistan not through political accomodations but by scapegoating all that responsibility onto the troops. What a wrongheaded move Obama is making to add 40,000 more there. We're just saving face. But it's like he really believes that it can be "won".
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This reflects on the United States (not "conservative" or "liberal" but the country as a whole) and it's credibility. If it turns out that torture has continued under Mr. Obama despite his renunciation, then the world will have more reason to distrust the United States. |
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"If you think about it, UPS and FedEx are doing just fine," he said. "It's the post office that's always having problems." Barack Obama on government run healthcare. 08/11/2009 American by birth. Conservative by the grace of God. Still sore about the war of northern aggression. |
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![]() It is possible that there is no torture being committed by Americans, but the resistance to full disclosure can contribute to those weary of American violations of human rights (and this includes those Americans who actually respect human rights) to be even more convinced that the United States is trying to hide even more wrongdoing. The best thing for America to do to "clean up it's image" is to "clean up it's act." But it should "clean up it's act" because it is the right thing to do not because it will "clean up it's image." |
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