So much for winning the war on terror when Osama's still alive and now has new bases and control over an entire war ravage country.
In this video they call out he's name and pledge loyalty to only him
YouTube - Breezes from the Winds of Victory of the Muslim Defense Forces 1
Whats the point of US troops being in Afghanistan's if AQ already has training camps in Somalia and controls much of the country?
The whole thing is becoming a joke as the other terrorist are going look at whats happening in Somalia which would give them a morale boost they they should never have had.
AQ is not popular in somalia but the somali people hve no support from the international community to get rid of AQ out of somalia.
The current popular government remains weak with little help or support from the international community.
Obama just watches as somalia turns into and AQ stronghold, the world must act before it is too late, before AQ has time to entrench itself within somali soceity.
If that happens then it would be much harder to get rid of AQ out of somalia than it could be now.

So do you think the US should invade Somalia, Afghanistan style, and bomb the hell out of those AQ bases?

Where is Osama anyway?

On another note, ... Swine Flu just killed 4,000 Americans. The result is very similar to 9/11. Is the US prepared to add Swine Flu to the Terrorism List and spend unlimited resources to protect the American people against this new form of Terrorism?

What I believe worries Americans today is Swine Flu,... not Osama Bin Laden.

WS.

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There's a difference between a disease and a man who plots and carries out the craven, cowardly murder of 3,000 people.

You should be one of the folks most interested in seeing Bin Hidin captured, WS - he's a huge stain on Islam and a great many people associate your religion with his actions (since he says he did them in the name of Islam).

But I guess you think we should just forget about him?

Matt

Yes thats exactly what should happen, i mean how could the terrorist be allowed to capture a whole country and brainwash an entire new population. Thats just alarming, they would use somalia as a place to plan attacks against america.
Its just ridiculously to allow this to happen, it would give a huge morale boost to the terrorist in afganistan to keep fighting as long as they can see that AQ has managed to take over somalia.
Whats going on with the US leadership don't they think just for a seconc that allowing osama to take over somalia would also threaten their own anti-terrorist offensive in Afghanistan.
What the hell are US soldier dying in Afghanistan for if AQ is allowed to take over somalia, unbelievable.
The united states needs to act now and do something about this before its too late, before the terrorist managed to over throw somalia's own weak government. The united states needs to be in somalia and train somalia's own army to fight the terrorist themselves.
United states needs to stop hoping that this would somehow just go away because it won't it will only get worse the longer the problem is ignored.
Somalia is a failed state that has become AQ's easy target. Now its time that the world cleaned up its act and get in somalia and do nation building and prevent AQ from using it as its own base.

Exactly what should not happen. It would far better to let a Islamist state take over in Somalia so the US would have someone on the other side of the table. What the US needs to say to the islamists is: we don't care how you treat your people or how you choose to live. As long as you don't make trouble for the US we will leave you alone. Then the US needs to get out of Somalia and out of the entire region as well. If London wants to engage in nation building then Londoin can do so on their own dime and with their own soldiers.

If the west has proven anything during the last eight years, then that the radical and intolerant islamofascistic governments are better for the prosperity of those peoples than the weak and corruption-rotten pseudo-democratic dictatorships we have installed.

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yes we should invade somalia and level the place

What's the point of any of it when our Commander in Chief lacks the will to even develop a stategy to fight a war on terror. Hell, he's fucking afraid to even call it a war on terror. He ought to bring the troops home until we get the right man for the job.

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If we had caught Osama in 2002, like most of the THREE HUNDRED, (that's right, that's ALL the Special Ops we had in Afghanistan in 2001-02 and they were WINNING THE WAR HANDILY, because NOBODY liked the Taliban or Osama back then) had caught Osama as they were JUST about to and brought him to the US for a trial that would have shown the whole world what a totally craven coward and utter asshole he really is, then he wouldn't be becoming the new Mohammmed for a whole generation.

Instead we went and ATTACKED A WHOLE DIFFERENT COUNTRY THAT HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH THE PROBLEM.

And there's really nothing to be done for it now because even if they catch Osama at this point they'll just be making him a martyr.

Thank you, you goddam fucking stupid asshole Republicans, for inflicting that evil idiot (and no, I DON"T mean Osama here) on us for eight fucking years, thank you so fucking much. You may even be ultimately responsible for ending Western Civilization and bringing on a new Dark Ages, but at least Saddam won't diss Georgie Porgies daddy no more.

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Catching him or not, would not make a difference to be honest. He does not have any influence right now and I dont believe he is still running Al Qaeda... I believe Al Qaeda is totally disorganised and most of it if not all has melted away.

Do you think capturing him would remove tht "stain" on Islam? Only education will. There are people who will always believe that Islam is "evil" no matter how much you educate them and regardless of whether people like Bin Laden contributed. Thats pure ignorance.

Bin Laden was never a representative of Islam and never will be. Nobody can be! Islam is today complete... if anyone wants to learn about it, ... they should seek the original authentic sources, i.e The Quran and The Hadith (actions and sayings of Prophet Mohammed (pbuh) ....but if they decide to take their education on Islam from OBL and his kind.... well thats just effin stupid. You would agree that you cannot go to the KKK to learn about Christianity!

WS.

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Drama Queen much. Sheesh.

So what happened to B.O. and Hillary's campaign rhetoric about getting OBL? Don't hear anything about that these days.

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I would certainly agree. Would you agree that outside of the community of Muslims, OBL is one of the most widely recognized Muslims on the planet?

Matt

This administration doesn't fight the War on Terror.

Now its a contingency operation.

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Was it ever something else than a contingency/propaganda operation?

I mean words for it apart; the USA ( the West) has never fully applied its whole force and power to the fight this (imo rather marginal) threat (compared to future real enemies).

At least from the outside ( Non-American perspective) the idea that there is some sort of real shift in US foreign policy under Obushma seems to be just as ridicoulus as the leftists claim that Bush the younger was some sort of out of line extremists in this regard.

I mean not one single western government wants to truelly commit itself to the course/operation, is willing to sacrifice the blood and treasure "needed" for it or at least call a spade a spade (= good bye business/arms deals with Saudi Arabia, Egypt.. and cheap oil).

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If only billy the clinton hadn't turned tail and run for cover......

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