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Aikido is relatively pacifistic as far as martial arts go.
You brought up my sense of justice. I'm just asking for clarification, in case I need to defend myself.
I certainly don't want to put anything in your mouth, bad taste or otherwise.
Oh, and if you don't want your expressed opinions challenged, might I suggest a blog (or changing your name to Kathaksung). This is a discussion forum, so if you're going to express your POV, expect to have it discussed.
This discussion doesn't work kept to a hypothetical and philosophical context. Individual cases may or may not be justified.
Do you wish to discard your own topic constraints and discuss the U.S. military combat in Iraq/Afghanistan and the suicide bombers (from the 9/11 hijackers to the insurgents to the angry citizens) that have acted?
It seems as if we've gone from "is it wrong?" (in a vague sense) to "which is worse?" If we do that, we're going to need to leave the strictly philosophical.
He's come to save the day!
Captain Toast with pistols?
I'm sure I'm missing something...
Discuss the subject and not one another, please.
I already gave an instance of what I consider moral in many instances. It's not my fault you are not listening and looking for some out of subject argument points. If your ego is that frail over what I said about pacifism I'm sorry but I'm not going to sit here and make meaningless arguments when I've more than made my point. I'm not going to play this put down game.
We have established that it is not inherently wrong to carry and detonate explosives. Who could argue with that?
But we've been unable to morally decouple that from the reality that doing so in a crowd is quite immoral no matter who your god is or isn't.
He's come to save the day!
I'm not sure what the heck Donkey was after. Personally, in that regard, I'd contend that desperation should not factor in to suicide bombing specifically because the ultimate in desperation is survival which is completely negated by the act of suicide. What is actually at play is either a distorted sense of altruism or distorted sense of what the afterlife means in the context of murdering other people.
A discussion attempting to rationalize suicide bombing would be interesting. If that's what the OP's intent was, we have a ways to go...
I'm not so sure that the ultimate in desperation is survival. So often we see desperate self-sacrifice to save another. Think of a soldier throwing himself on a grenade, or what a parent would do to defend a child. Desperation, IMHO, seems to also lead to amazing acts of selflessness.