concerning the security failure the Obama administration had deciphering this wack jobs threat and the communication failures - Obama is quoted as stating:

"But it's becoming clear that the system that has been in place for years now is not sufficiently up to date to take full advantage of the information we collect and the knowledge we have."

I am slapping my forehead in awe shouting "What a dumb shit!" For years since 9/11 the Bush administration has kept our air travel safe and has even sucessfully disfused threats before they occured and this idiot Obama has the balls the BLAME BUSH again for his own failures!!!

This guy needs to stop whining and stamping his feet - get off his high horse and get the effing job done.

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He's not blaming Bush. He saying that the system has faults, and it does (obviously). This doesn't mean he's blaming Bush.

Just like bush didn't blame Clinton for 9/11, Obama isn't blaming Bush. Terrorists evole their tactics and the methods that the airports used to check passengers are no longer good enough (but perhaps they were when Bush was president).

Conservatives playing the 'blame Bush' card is a strawman. *look Obama said something that's critical of the past, that must mean he's attacking Bush, let's attack him for attacking Bush!* Puhlease.

As usual, when something happens, as with the bombing of the Northwest plane on Christmas Day, Pres. Obama's usual approach is to shift blame away from himself. In this case, he is blaming the intelligence agencies, and the terrorist watch list, which of course allows him to blame Bush. I have a problem with this in that Pres. Obama is supposed to be in charge, and he is the one who appointed people to key positions who are also in charge.

I think that his focusing on anything BUT national security, and his penchant for attacking the CIA, has led to two recent terror attacks on this country, Fort Hood, and this plane bombing. Only the incompetancy of the bomber kept another few hundred people from dying. Instead, Pres. Obama, from Day 1, should have made national security his sole priority, and made sure that our national security, and intelligence apparatus we organized effectively and had all the resources to do their job. And were doing that job.

Its clear that Pres Obama has no clue how to protect this country, and this is a steep learning curve. In his speech a few days after the incident, here is what he proposed. The question is, why wasnt this done 10 months ago? The answer is of course, that he consider buying banks and auto companies, and expanding govt into your lives more important. Its sad that we need constant reminders such as death, to trigger the President to work.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/art...ran_99715.html

Run heathcare? These fucking morons can't even run the TSA. Thats what happens when you give a boy a man's job.

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Story is still too new to get a good handle.
Troubling is that he is on the terrorist watch list, two phone calls recorded from his FATHER that he believed he was involved in a possible attack.

And.......
1) He paid in cash...almost $4000.
2) He had no luggage for a trip across the globe.

HELLOOOO!!!!

None of these things are a Presidents fault.

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Do you expect Obama to come out and say "Oops, sorry, my bad... this is all my fault." Please. Presidents are not omnipotent. I got a really bad paper cut last week... should I blame Obama for that too?

Its almost too bad the bomb did not go off. If it had, the blame would have fallen directly on scumbag Obama, and we would have scored political points big time. Oh well, better luck next time.

Precisely.
This "blame the President for everything" attitude will get us nowhere.
It is a combination of the legislative branch and the executive branch, and the appointed officers in charge.
It should be noted that this President has done nothing to alter how security is handled and procedures.
It is silly to blame him.

Blame the whole apparatus.

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Anyone ever see a politician squarely take the blame for a complex issue where there is enough wiggle room to put a positive spin on it or at least spin it as someone else's problem/failure?

I’d might evevn vote for someone whose policies I hated if they would get up and say “I screwed up, I’ll fix it.”

But that will never happen.

The security at most airports is a joke. This applies to American and European airports. Anyone with half a clue can get stuff past the security screenings; just bribe a low paid service worker to carry it through for you. They are not well checked at all.

If we want true security then we will have to submit to a full search of all luggage brought on board, including carryon luggage with everyone individually identifying their bags before they are placed on the plane. This would apply to transfer flights etc as well. Full body scans, explosive detection systems ( dogs or mechanical) extreme limits on what is allowed in the cabin etc.

The traveling public would not put up with this and it would be the death of the short and medium haul airline industry as people switched to alternative means of transportation.

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To all of you Obama apologists. B.O. Has been I office for almost a year now. At what point does he actually become responsible for anything?

He hasn't even filled all of the positions within his administration, some of them are key positions. Is he responsible for that?

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You ever fly connecting flights with small small planes? (you know, the kind you have to walk out on the tarmac and get in)
Unbelievable lack of security.
I went from Indiana to JAX, with a connection in Atlanta.
When I got in Atlanta I got my carry on, since I was already in the terminal area I went through NO check points, I had the carry on for about an hour all over the expansive terminal area. When time to board I carried it with me and onto the plane. No checks whatsoever in between the two flights.

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I have absolutely no idea what my generation did to improve our democracy. We dropped the ball. We entered a period of complacency and closed our eyes to the public corruption of our democracy.
Wynton Marsalis

Noted your wish for the death of innocent civilians to make political hay.

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But the security system that failed is the security system that has been in place and mostly worked since 9/11. He's no more responsible for this than Bush was for 9/11, since Bush was also relying on the security system that kept us safe well before he set foot in the oval office. There was no need for either to make any changes or do any reviews because the systems, for the most part, worked.
Not completely, no. As I understand it, nominations for the administration must be approved by the senate and partisanship is slowing down the process quite a bit.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/12/28/us...8nominees.html

I want him to shut up and do his job so he doesnt have to come out and make pretty speeches every time he fails. Stop trying to run my life, and focus on protecting it. Since Obama took office there have been two successfull attacks on US soil resulting in dozens of casualties. Thats unnacceptable, and an example of how he is not focused on the correct priorities.