Thread: What Does the Detroit Bomber Know?

Originally Posted by Donkey_Left

You're possibly one of the worst people in the world.

Why? Because I believe in an eye for an eye.

Originally Posted by Truthbetold

I don't feel terrorists should be allowed to lawyer up. I feel every family they tried to murder should be able to call their torture technique until he gives us valuable intel.

Shoot his knee cap off then duct tape it back on to support him for the next torture technique.

Take a blow torch and carve out one of his eyes, wipe his arse with it, then put it back in its socket.

Tie him up in death valley with only his privates hanging out after they are dipped in sun tan oil. I'd agree to a water drip system to keep him alive while his nuts get 3rd degree sun burns.

Take the blow torch and cut the crispy nuts off ant tell him that is his meal tonight.

ETC!

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Eventually we get valuable intel from him. When you try murder hundreds of innocent people you shouldn't have rights.

Hmmm...I doubt that. Something tells me he will be unable to talk by the time you finish your list.

Originally Posted by MattInFla

That's seriously fucked up right there.

If we do that crap, we're no better then the scumbags who try to blow up airliners. It's bad enough that we've let the jihadists have a huge victory by abandoning some of our core principles, but what you've posted here is just beyond the pale.

Matt

BOOOOM! Your whole family has just been blown up in a terrorist attack and the terrorist is demanding OJ simpson's lawyer. How should we proceed?

Don't worry I got your back.

Originally Posted by Donkey_Left

I think that the torture/unlawful detention talking point was that "If you treat him like a criminal according to process, he will not cooperate."

And that is clearly false.

That is a strawman argument.

Originally Posted by Truthbetold

BOOOOM! Your whole family has just been blown up in a terrorist attack and the terrorist is demanding OJ simpson's lawyer. How should we proceed?

Don't worry I got your back.

There's a difference between treating the guy as suspected murderer and torturing him every way we know how.

Originally Posted by Truthbetold

I don't feel terrorists should be allowed to lawyer up. I feel every family they tried to murder should be able to call their torture technique until he gives us valuable intel.

Once they're proven to be terrorists, they don't need to lawyer up. Before that, you don't know that they are terrorists, do you?

Shoot his knee cap off then duct tape it back on to support him for the next torture technique.

Take a blow torch and carve out one of his eyes, wipe his arse with it, then put it back in its socket.

Tie him up in death valley with only his privates hanging out after they are dipped in sun tan oil. I'd agree to a water drip system to keep him alive while his nuts get 3rd degree sun burns.

Take the blow torch and cut the crispy nuts off ant tell him that is his meal tonight.

ETC!


Eventually we get valuable intel from him. When you try murder hundreds of innocent people you shouldn't have rights.

Originally Posted by Truthbetold

Why? Because I believe in an eye for an eye.

No you don't. If you're talking about the "BOOOOM" terrorist, then the only thing you would be able to do to him is blow him up without getting any info from him.

And no, there is no guarantee of getting valuable info from him, particularly if he was working alone.

Originally Posted by Truthbetold

BOOOOM! Your whole family has just been blown up in a terrorist attack and the terrorist is demanding OJ simpson's lawyer. How should we proceed?

Don't worry I got your back.

You mean, as opposed to the way you'd treat a guy who just raped, tortured and murdered your 6 year old daughter?

how does that article change anything?

the agents he spoke to ( for ,50 thats fifty minutes, until read his rights on Christmas) where not part of the High-Value Detainee Interrogation Unit or HIG the grp obama promised to create that is a specialized team TRAINED for/with ME specialties, he was 'interrogated' by loca fbi agents, basically no one special. 50 minutes.

as to what hes been promised after the fact, i.e. after having been given a lawyer and time had passed. Cooperation now, does not mitigate the original sin, intel, actionable intel has a shelf life, I'd say dec, 25 till feb 2 may have soured the milk.

If this is how we plan on handling these folks god help us, if they want to ultimately treat him like a criminal, I don't get it but thats my shit, BUT he/whomever in the future should be taken and interrogated for a few days before being handed over to 'criminal' authorities.

Originally Posted by TheLastBoyScout

So this is an interesting development. The Christmas bomber was treated as a traditional criminal and processed accordingly, and now we learn that they have gained valuable, actionable intel from him.

The opposition (pro-torture/enemy combatant) talking points have almost all been dismantled.

The latest talking point seems to be that the White house is endangering national security by relaying the fact that the bomber talked. How is that exactly? The only apparent effect of that basic information is to make any terrorist who had contact/cooperation with the bomber shake in their sandals. What is wrong with that?

weeks old 'valuable' intel?...whats ‘valuable’? He plea bargained so as to give us 'valuable' intel on how he was trained and by whom, what could have been used and wasn't we will never know, you really think this all makes sense?

Are you of the opinion that hence forth we should treat any and all/this way, next time we don't speak to him them at all, we immediately make them hands off and get bupkas until their lawyer has named his price...... like a bank robber, the feds come in, they now know they can clam up, and will, they take their lessons well, and put it on their training book.


Not for m., but hey.....we'll need a another tragedy to wake up again, thats for sure.


Its interesting that the uk and spain for instance allow you to hold without representation for 72 hours....I guess they can just wait it out there too. I guess we have set the new bar at 50 minutes. We'll always get lucky I guess....