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You mean just continuing to do what we've basically done since the Korean War cease fire? That hasn't been working out, John.Originally Posted by John Drake
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City Council Member
Believe there has been a lot of unnecessary concern and hand-wringing regarding the present issues on the Korean peninsula. According to this morning's news, Actions have been taken by the Sec of State to address the situation.
Hillary has demanded an apology from NK for sinking the SK ship. And in the event they (NK) resist/refuse to provide that apology she is fully prepared to unleash the extreme measure of condemning Li'l Kim.
(that's gonna leave a mark....)
"Give a man a match, and he'll be warm for a minute. But set him on fire, and he'll be warm for the rest of his life."
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Secretary of State
Obviously the North Koreans did it. Do you believe that they didn't?
As far as I can tell, no one but you believes it to be accidental. That you can draw the conclusion that the least likely scenario is the "only logical possibility" doesn't speak well of your reasoning skills.
I think that for years they have heard the chest pounding rhetoric of their nut-job little leader, and have watched as other transgressions have been allowed to go unpunished, and that they believe that this one will, as well.
I would argue that the recent sinking of the South Korean ship by a North Korean torpedo started the latest installment of this war.
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U.S. House Representative
http://www.vbs.tv/newsroom/vice-guid...-korea-1-of-14
If you get time watch the full programme (watch 1 to 3 of 3 rather than 1 to 14 as it's the same full episode, just combined)...a great insight into the controlled world the average NK live in...it also goes some way to explaining the mentality that they have to the outside world...they simply know no better, and really do come from the land that time forgot
anyone applying for a travel visa?
Seems as though the Russians are flexing some muscle here too. They've dispatched the command ships from three of their fleets to the Sea of Japan.
If anyone is wondering why Russia is so interested.....
Take a look at a map and see how US occupation and/or influence has enveloped Russia's perimeter since 2001. Considering that US policy goals include an effort to place China at odds with Russia (why involve ourselves directly when we can get someone else to do it for us?), Russia is sending a clear message that they won't put up with any funny business.
UPDATE: Russia sends its mightiest warships for drills in Far East | Top Russian news and analysis online | 'RIA Novosti' newswire
Vice President
To participate in naval drills that have been scheduled for quite some time.
"The spirit must be the firmer, the heart the bolder,
courage must be the greater as our might fails"
Proud Virginian Administrator!
Pretty much. These drills were announced in January 2009.
Russian military announces large-scale Vostok-2010 drills | Top Russian news and analysis online | 'RIA Novosti' newswire
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Excellent points. it could be mere coincidence.
I'm always trying to think completely outside the box with a strong lean towards the fact that our leadership are attempting to roll the world into a more unified global system, and aren't afraid to kill off a few million folks in the process.
With that in mind, I have to wonder..... just what kinds of strategies has Kissinger been talking about with Russian leaders on his frequent trips to Moscow, and what exactly were Bush and Putin discussing on their private fishing trip a couple of years back?
Perhaps the timing of a Russian naval exercise isn't such a coincidence after all?
Obviously that's pure speculation, but I'll tuck it away for future use if anything bigger comes out of these events.
Governor
i don't believe the official story...
http://news.bbc.co.uk/nol/shared/bsp...0jigreport.pdf
That's just one big load of BS, if you ask me... Where is the evidence? I see nothing but assumptions...
Anyone can put some Korean mark on a torpedo...
I smell a false flag.
Interesting article: http://english.hani.co.kr/arti/engli...al/421856.html
Last edited by Thanatos; 05-26-2010 at 02:00 PM.
The whole modern world has divided itself into Conservatives and Progressives.
The business of Progressives is to go on making mistakes.
The business of the Conservatives is to prevent the mistakes from being corrected.
- G.K. Chesterton
Interesting. They also released drawings that they said showed the North Korean design, but the drawings don't match photo's that they released of the torpedo parts that were reportedly dredged from the area. The design has significant differences from the rusted, scale coveredd piece that they are saying was used last month.
Vice President
Funny how you're willing to risk people's lives on a "bet."
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Vice President
Regardless of the action taken in the coming weeks/months, there will be further blood.....
"The spirit must be the firmer, the heart the bolder,
courage must be the greater as our might fails"
Vice President
Why don't you go and attack North Korea yourself?
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