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Weren't they already?
Well, not the Maoist, but the Chinese Communists haven't collapsed yet.
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The Joke that the Obama administration has become:
Is the United States of America really powerless to stop a nomadic cyber-hacker - who sleeps on people's couches and changes his hair color to avoid surveillance - from causing enormous damage to our national security?
Apparently, in the age of Obama, we are.But tsquare... whatever could he do!?!What action did the Obama administration take to prevent the impending release of such volatile information? State Department legal adviser Harold Koh sent a strongly worded letter urging WikiLeaks to cease publishing classified materials. I'm sure that made Assange think twice.
Is the Obama administration going to do anything - anything at all - to stop these serial disclosures of our nation's most closely guarded secrets? Just this past week, the federal government took decisive action to shut down more than 70 Web sites that were disseminating pirated music and movies. Hollywood is safe, but WikiLeaks is free to disseminate classified documents without consequence.
However...The Obama administration has the ability to bring Assange to justice and to put WikiLeaks out of business. The new U.S. Cyber Command could shut down WilkiLeaks' servers and prevent them from releasing more classified information on President Obama's orders.
Obama administration is weak in the face of WikiLeaksBut, as The Post reported this month, the Obama administration has been paralyzed by infighting over how, and when, it might use these new offensive capabilities in cyberspace. One objection: "The State Department is concerned about diplomatic backlash" from any offensive actions in cyberspace, The Post reported. Well, now the State Department can deal with the "diplomatic backlash" that comes from standing by helplessly, while WikiLeaks releases hundreds of thousands of its most sensitive diplomatic cables.
And this from the Washington Post of all places.
Jimmy Carter - 2010. Just as incompetent, just as 'paralyzed' as ever before. Now available in Black
President
Weren't they already?
Well, not the Maoist, but the Chinese Communists haven't collapsed yet.
Joint Chiefs of Staff Member
I figure that there are many governments which would be happy if the U.S. Cybercommand knocked out wikileaks.
Legend of USPO
I'm sure that if the Obama admin goes after Assange the ACLU will spring into action..........oh wait, progessives defending progressive from a progressive admin? How confusing would that be?
Take a good hard look, it's coming.
President
Kenyan, Somalian, British, United Nations, Peruvian, Iranian, Icelandic, German documents have all been released. Forthcoming are Russian documents. In addition they have also released many documents from corporations around the world. Apparently a large BP release is coming.
They are not just picking on the poor old USA.
Andrew
...corporations and those who run them cannot stop exploiting resources and amassing wealth until they have... .I cannot finish this sentence, because the truth is that can never stop; like cancer, they can only continue to expand until they kill the host.
-- Derrick Jensen
President
How?
He's not in the US. To the best of my knowledge the ACLU doesn't work in foreign countries.
Joint Chiefs of Staff Member
Damn, I hate that term "progressive." Most of the progressives I know are not very progressive.
President
The ACLU has already "sprung into action" to defend wikileaks.
Judge reverses wikileaks injunction- The Inquirer
Andrew
...corporations and those who run them cannot stop exploiting resources and amassing wealth until they have... .I cannot finish this sentence, because the truth is that can never stop; like cancer, they can only continue to expand until they kill the host.
-- Derrick Jensen
President
Sure. It would be bad for democracy to harm wikileaks.
I don't see any value in such a personal attack against Assange. I certainly don't see how it would benefit democracy in the same way that wikileaks does by exposing corruption.What if, say, the NSA were to grab copies of all of Mr. Assanges email and post that for public consumption?
Matt
Here is an example. In 2007 wikileaks exposed the massive corruption of the kenyan government.
The looting of Kenya | World news | The Guardian
I don't really see how exposing political and corporate corruption is on par with petty revenge and personal attacks.
Andrew
...corporations and those who run them cannot stop exploiting resources and amassing wealth until they have... .I cannot finish this sentence, because the truth is that can never stop; like cancer, they can only continue to expand until they kill the host.
-- Derrick Jensen
Legend of USPO
I didn't know that. I don't know much about the guy or have ever visited the website.
Legend of USPO
so you believe in different rules for different people then?
President
Yeah, he's in Sweden, IIRC.
(never been to the site, either. I don't agree with much of what he's doing)
Legend of USPO!
Mr. Assange has attempted to auction off documents for financial benefit. Revealing his financial dealings might well be exposing corruption.
Auctioning stolen documents seems pretty corrupt.
Matt
Well, congratulations, President Barack Obama, Conspiracy theorists who generally can survive in anaerobic environments have just had an algae bloom dropped on their fucking heads, thus removing the last arrow in your pro-governance quiver: skepticism about your opponents. - Jon Stewart
President
I believe in exposing corruption and undermining the efforts of governments and corporations to carry on with their ongoing rape of the world and selling out of its people.
here is an example:
http://image.guardian.co.uk/sys-file...ntonreport.pdf
Trafigura: What the secret Minton report says - Telegraph
Now why would anybody not want wikileaks to continue exposing this sort of stuff like these corporations who dump all their toxic waste without any concern at all for peoples lives?
Andrew
...corporations and those who run them cannot stop exploiting resources and amassing wealth until they have... .I cannot finish this sentence, because the truth is that can never stop; like cancer, they can only continue to expand until they kill the host.
-- Derrick Jensen
President
nope. Not for financial benefit but to support the organization.
Leak-o-nomy: The Economy of*Wikileaks (Interview with Julian Assange) | Medien-Φkonomie-Blog
It is a form of resistance and dissent.Auctioning stolen documents seems pretty corrupt.
Matt
Andrew
...corporations and those who run them cannot stop exploiting resources and amassing wealth until they have... .I cannot finish this sentence, because the truth is that can never stop; like cancer, they can only continue to expand until they kill the host.
-- Derrick Jensen
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