Thread: Wikileaks...

Originally Posted by leighredf

I'm not worried about the privacy of politicians. I'm worried about information on the little things like where our nukes are, weaknesses in our nukes, where our military forces will be if a war over X starts, etc.

In regards to our military being stationed and data which reveals strategic information, I completely agree. In regards to our diplomacy and unlawful or questionable actions engaged by our diplomats and soldiers overseas and at home, there is no reasonable expectation of privacy to be had. All that is doing is shying away from responsibility.

Originally Posted by goober

Of course it begs the question, how does a website get a hold of 390,000 pages of classified documents?

DITTO. How did they get classified information. Is this one of those computer hackers that can break into classified government information?

At any rate it is WRONG--it can do untold damage to everyone in the world--and someone needs to be prosectuted over this. It has got to stop.

Originally Posted by Oreo

DITTO. How did they get classified information. Is this one of those computer hackers that can break into classified government information?

At any rate it is WRONG--it can do untold damage to everyone in the world--and someone needs to be prosectuted over this. It has got to stop.

I agree. The inside people who accessed it and leaked it are the ones that should be prosecuted.

The documents were downloaded and sent to Wikileaks by Pfc. Bradley Manning.

Bradley Manning - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

He is in a military prison.

Apparently the pentagon had made accessing classified documents easier in an effort to improve intelligence sharing in the post 9/11 permanent war world.

Andrew

Originally Posted by Andrewl

The documents were downloaded and sent to Wikileaks by Pfc. Bradley Manning.

Bradley Manning - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

He is in a military prison.

Apparently the pentagon had made accessing classified documents easier in an effort to improve intelligence sharing in the post 9/11 permanent war world.

Andrew

And, in all likelihood, Mr. Manning is going to be in a military prison for the next several decades.

I wonder how Mr. Assange sleeps at night, using the traffic from these postings to solicit financial donations.

Matt

Originally Posted by leighredf

No, what Wikileaks does is a form a self-aggrandizement, presumably for monetary gain of some sort. They are cowards, hiding behind the media's inability to recognize faux resistance and leak apologism (unless the leak involves Valerie Plame). If their cause is so righteous, then they need to step up and step out. Quit hiding.

This big global release of a wide variety of material puts Wikileaks in the category of the National Enquirer.

It is very easy to dismiss wikileaks like you attempt to. It comes across as very shallow and misinformed though.

Why the obsession with CEO's? Do you think the leaders of your progressive activist groups are less corrupt? The "evil Wall St." chant is stale and tiresome.

I don't have any activist groups so i don't know. I do however think that mega-corporations and nation states are run by sociopaths who are hyper-exploiting and destroying the life support systems of this world for the short term gain of a few.

Andrew

Originally Posted by MattInFla

And, in all likelihood, Mr. Manning is going to be in a military prison for the next several decades.

I wonder how Mr. Assange sleeps at night, using the traffic from these postings to solicit financial donations.

Matt

Mr Assange and Mr Manning are both great heroes in my book. They should be celebrated.

Andrew

Originally Posted by Andrewl

Mr Assange and Mr Manning are both great heroes in my book. They should be celebrated.

Andrew

Maybe you can visit Mr. Manning in prison. Or, perhaps for the right donation, you can meet Mr. Assange.

Originally Posted by MattInFla

Maybe you can visit Mr. Manning in prison. Or, perhaps for the right donation, you can meet Mr. Assange.

Nah, i don't need to meet them to think what they are doing is a wonderful thing for the world.

Andrew

Originally Posted by Andrewl

Mr Assange and Mr Manning are both great heroes in my book. They should be celebrated.

They should be killed.

I'd celebrate the fuck outta' that...

Originally Posted by RRAHH

In regards to our military being stationed and data which reveals strategic information, I completely agree. In regards to our diplomacy and unlawful or questionable actions engaged by our diplomats and soldiers overseas and at home, there is no reasonable expectation of privacy to be had. All that is doing is shying away from responsibility.

Why should our diplomatic interests be exempted from privacy and who gets to determine which diplomatic actions are "questionable"? Where do you sign up to be the sole arbiter of all that is right or wrong with America?

Your comment comes off like you believe that our State Department and our military leadership are corrupt. If that's the case then your responsibility is to vote out the people that are supposed to be keeping us free from corruption. You could even go so far as to rally up a whole bunch of supporters of your beliefs or even run for the position of "decider" yourself. You do not, however, get to pick which laws you will and will not obey....unless you are US Attorney General Holder.

Originally Posted by Andrewl

Nah, i don't need to meet them to think what they are doing is a wonderful thing for the world.

Andrew

After a few years in prison, I suspect Mr. Manning won't really care that anyone considers him a hero - he's going to pay a terrible price for his criminal disclosure of this information.

Matt

Originally Posted by Steve

They should be killed.

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Do you believe you live in a democratic society where every Joe Schmoe has influence on what your governing bodies are doing around the world and within your borders?