Thread: Wikileaks...

Originally Posted by Andrewl

In the new year Wikileaks is going to expose the corruption of a major US bank..

Come on - tell me you guys don't want to know the details?? i know i do.

Anderw

Of course you do, Andrew.

The bizarre and perverse exploits of this character are a manifestation of hysterical, single-minded anti-Americanism taken to the absolute limits of lunacy and beyond.

Your convulsions of joy are unseemly. Would you be celebrating this weird garbage if it were any other country?

I think not.

Although it would seem to me that even the most devoted, fervent and doctrinaire anti-American fanatics might want to reconsider their response. Other nations may be harmed as well.

Originally Posted by MattInFla

"Wounded pride"?!?!

Obviously, yes.

Andrew

Originally Posted by Andrewl

Obviously, yes.

Andrew

Obviously, you're just inventing stuff here to shift the topic.

Weak and pathetic, Andrew.

Now that we've explored your creepy obsession with my feelings, shall we return to the topic?

Thanks ever so.

Matt

Originally Posted by Tim

Of course you do, Andrew.

The bizarre and perverse exploits of this character are a manifestation of hysterical, single-minded anti-Americanism taken to the absolute limits of lunacy and beyond.

Your convulsions of joy are unseemly. Would you be celebrating this weird garbage if it were any other country?

I think not.

Although it would seem to me that even the most devoted, fervent and doctrinaire anti-American fanatics might want to reconsider their response. Other nations may be harmed as well.

Absolutely i would be Tim. My desire is to see the collapse of global industrial mass consumer society. I hope the damage that wikileaks does to nation states and corporations continues to be spread wide and far.

Here is list of their accomplishments so far (its not just the US):

WikiLeaks - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

There is some great stuff there.

Andrew

Originally Posted by MattInFla

shall we return to the topic?

I have been discussing the topic of wikileaks and the content of their leaks through the entire thread. Mostly what i get in return is just righteous indignation that somebody would dare expose US secrets and/or just pure focus on the individual.

If you would like to discuss the leaks and what wikileaks means to global society from a historical and current events perspective im all in.

Andrew

Originally Posted by Andrewl

Because the poeple who run these mega-corporations need to be exposed for the corrupt murderous ecocidal thieving creeps that they are.The problem with your conclusory statements is that there are probably a lot of "mega-corporations" are corporations that you probably love, like the Red Cross. "In other words, provide some substance to the discussion rather than just your obvious annoyance at (mega-corporations)."



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Why do the assholes who run banks and other corporations get to wield so much power? Did a bank turn you down for a loan?

Andrew

Why such hostility?

Originally Posted by Andrewl

I have been discussing the topic of wikileaks and the content of their leaks through the entire thread. Mostly what i get in return is just righteous indignation that somebody would dare expose US secrets and/or just pure focus on the individual.

If you would like to discuss the leaks and what wikileaks means to global society from a historical and current events perspective im all in.

Andrew

I am interested in discussing WikiLeaks - that's what I have been doing.

You just can't seem to handle seeing any viewpoint apart from your own support of WikiLeaks.

To the extent that you're capable of discussing WikiLeaks (rather than your baseless beliefs about other posters' emotions), let's have at it. Here's a starter for you:

Why is it acceptable for WikiLeaks to conceal their own confidential information while trafficking in the stolen confidential information of other organizations?

Matt

Originally Posted by leighredf

Why such hostility?

See my signature.

Andrew

Originally Posted by MattInFla

I am interested in discussing WikiLeaks - that's what I have been doing.

You just can't seem to handle seeing any viewpoint apart from your own support of WikiLeaks.

Matt, you have only speculated without any evidence whatsoever. Fine. I disagree. Provide some evidence and ill discuss your imaginative scenario further.

To the extent that you're capable of discussing WikiLeaks (rather than your baseless beliefs about other posters' emotions), let's have at it. Here's a starter for you:

Why is it acceptable for WikiLeaks to conceal their own confidential information while trafficking in the stolen confidential information of other organizations?

Matt

Because wikileaks is challenging and undermining very powerful people - i imagine they are very cautious and secretive.

Whether or not it is acceptable to you is not really that important to me. I want wikileaks to succeed and I want corporations and politicians to either change their behavior radically or fail outright.

On its own wikileaks probably won't accomplish this but they are a form of non-violent resistance to government and corporations and as such I think what they do is very good.

Andrew

Originally Posted by Andrewl

Matt, you have only speculated without any evidence whatsoever. Fine. I disagree. Provide some evidence and ill discuss your imaginative scenario further.




Because wikileaks is challenging and undermining very powerful people - i imagine they are very cautious and secretive.

Whether or not it is acceptable to you is not really that important to me. I want wikileaks to succeed and I want corporations and politicians to either change their behavior radically or fail outright.

On its own wikileaks probably won't accomplish this but they are a form of non-violent resistance to government and corporations and as such I think what they do is very good.

Andrew

Let's see if these great dissenters are up to the task of the Russians. I bet they don't leak the Russian data.

Originally Posted by leighredf

Let's see if these great dissenters are up to the task of the Russians. I bet they don't leak the Russian data.

Oh, its coming soon i think.

WikiLeaks Plans to Post Russian Documents; Moscow Not Pleased - TIME

Andrew

Originally Posted by Andrewl

Oh, its coming soon i think.

WikiLeaks Plans to Post Russian Documents; Moscow Not Pleased - TIME

Andrew

Good.

I have no doubt the Russians will have the balls to do what our current administration does not...

Originally Posted by Steve

Good.

I have no doubt the Russians will have the balls to do what our current administration does not...

If some Middle Eastern nation does not do so first.