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Reply With QuoteI don't have enough information to make an informed decision. The claims of a former defense attorney are usually pretty biased.Originally Posted by Andrewl
Matt
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The raw info "must be released"? Even if it places people at risk?
Sorry, but that doesn't fly with me - it was important to redact it before, but not if Assange is jailed?
Sounds like blackmail and / or extortion to me.
Matt
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I don't have enough information to make an informed decision. The claims of a former defense attorney are usually pretty biased.
Matt
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President
Yes. Far more people are at risk by allowing governments and corporations to operate business as usual.
It is still important to redact - but it is far more important to make sure that the efforts of wikileaks and its supporters are allowed to continue sans Assange.Sorry, but that doesn't fly with me - it was important to redact it before, but not if Assange is jailed?
It sounds like an insurance policy to me. It is certainly not extortion/blackmail as that normally involves something of value being given in return. All Assange is saying is don't assassinate me and don't prevent me from practicing journalism. For it to be extortion/blackmail he would have to be demanding some sort of compensation.Sounds like blackmail and / or extortion to me.
Matt
Andrew
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He's demanding that he be free from prosecution - which is clearly something of value.
He's acting like a common thug now, but I am not surprised to see you supporting it.
Matt
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Of course, considering you multiple posts on the need for the downfall of civilization I wouldn't expect any less from you.
President
Free from politically motivated prosecution.
He has not acted with violence in any way. The people who are acting like thugs are those people who are calling for him to be murdered.He's acting like a common thug now, but I am not surprised to see you supporting it.
Matt
Andrew
“...corporations and those who run them cannot stop exploiting resources and amassing wealth until they have... .I cannot finish this sentence, because the truth is that can never stop; like cancer, they can only continue to expand until they kill the host.”
-- Derrick Jensen
President
Yes. This is absolutely correct.
Andrew
“...corporations and those who run them cannot stop exploiting resources and amassing wealth until they have... .I cannot finish this sentence, because the truth is that can never stop; like cancer, they can only continue to expand until they kill the host.”
-- Derrick Jensen
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I agree that calling for him to be murdered is way over the top.
But this threat to release the unedited docs is simply extortion.
Matt
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Secretary of State
In operating Wikileaks, he's committing crimes against every nation the leaks come from. Are you saying he's okay with being prosecuted for that? I'm pretty sure it's the whole thing he's worried about being prosecuted for.
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President
But all he is asking for is to not be killed and not face politically motivated prosecution for publishing these documents which is perfectly legal for him to do.
Andrew
“...corporations and those who run them cannot stop exploiting resources and amassing wealth until they have... .I cannot finish this sentence, because the truth is that can never stop; like cancer, they can only continue to expand until they kill the host.”
-- Derrick Jensen
President
What he is doing is not illegal.
Andrew
“...corporations and those who run them cannot stop exploiting resources and amassing wealth until they have... .I cannot finish this sentence, because the truth is that can never stop; like cancer, they can only continue to expand until they kill the host.”
-- Derrick Jensen
Secretary of Defense
... on trumped-up charges.
How dare he?!
Secretary of State
It's espionage. Every nation labels espionage as a crime against their nation. There's no getting around this.
Should any nation decide to pursue charges, Assange's only hope is protection from his own government or some other government that supports him.
All good socialists have villas in Southern France. That's not the point.
-Eurosocialist
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Wow, the prosecutors in Sweden shared all their information with you, so you can actually make that claim without baseless supposition?
I didn't think so....
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President
In 1971 the supreme court of the US said. “Only a free and unrestrained press can effectively expose deception in government".
WikiLeaks Secret Records Dump Stays in Legal Clear: Ann Woolner - Bloomberg
In other words, it is illegal for a government employee to hand over classified information - but it is perfectly legal for the press to publish that information once they have it.
Andrew
“...corporations and those who run them cannot stop exploiting resources and amassing wealth until they have... .I cannot finish this sentence, because the truth is that can never stop; like cancer, they can only continue to expand until they kill the host.”
-- Derrick Jensen
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