Thread: Muslims are good people BULLSHIT!

Originally Posted by reality

And you say you're Jewish? And you don't know the history of your own people?


Please allow me to educate you.


Moses was warned that he would not be permitted to lead the Israelites across the Jordan river, because of his trespass at the waters of Meribah (Deut. 32:51) but would die on its eastern shores (Num. 20:12).

Like I said, he claimed a miracle was done by HIS power and not God's. For this he wasn't allowed to reach the Holy Land.

Like I said, Moses died. Now, you know

Originally Posted by Edwin30

I'm not aware of witches burned at the stake by Christians, lately.

I am aware of 3,000 Americans burned in the World Trade Towers on 9/11 by Muslims

Several dozen were hung in Haiti recently. They were accused of using "black magic to spread cholera". Haiti as you might know has had a rash of cholera recently. Apparently the witches did it

Originally Posted by Edwin30

No other religion other than Islam has the death penalty for apostasy.

It's 2011. Time for you to get with the program.

heres the definition of religion:



–noun
1. a set of beliefs concerning the cause, nature, and purpose of the universe, esp. when considered as the creation of a superhuman agency or agencies, usually involving devotional and ritual observances, and often containing a moral code governing the conduct of human affairs.
2. a specific fundamental set of beliefs and practices generally agreed upon by a number of persons or sects: the Christian religion; the Buddhist religion.
3. the body of persons adhering to a particular set of beliefs and practices: a world council of religions.
4. the life or state of a monk, nun, etc.: to enter religion.
5. the practice of religious beliefs; ritual observance of faith.
6. something one believes in and follows devotedly; a point or matter of ethics or conscience: to make a religion of fighting prejudice.
7. religions, Archaic . religious rites.
8. Archaic . strict faithfulness; devotion: a religion to one's vow.



None of those rule out beliefs with apostasy laws. You don't get to make up definitions dude. We have a common language, one who's terms you do not get to dictate. :rolleyes:

Originally Posted by unclassifiable

I have the freedom to vote for any candidate on the ballot.

Of course you do, never said you didn't. And that Candidate would be elected PRESIDENT, not SUPREME DICTATOR FOR LIFE. The President and Congress can no more legally do what you suggest than your suggested dictator could. Those policies are strictly against the Constitution and the founding principles of our nation. To put them into motion would be to void the social contract that is the Constitution. You do that and the government is nothing but armed thugs, devoid of all right authority and I will shoot them along with a significant portion of the population.

Originally Posted by Edwin30

Like I said, Moses died. Now, you know

Eddy just take the hit like a man and move on, k? Nobody knows everything. You were wrong. Its ok. You know what you said, I know what you said. You know why I corrected you.

Originally Posted by countryboy

Wow, you just don't give up, do ya DT?

Please tell me what Christian group compares with Wahhabism?

Just about any evangelical denomination falls into the same general category, even though most aren't quite as extreme. You'd have to go outside the U.S. to find Christian groups as extremely rigid as the Wahhabi.

And what problem do you have with a "typical evangelical Christan"?

Exactly the same problem as I have with a Wahhabi Muslim or a member of the Taliban. The common thread here is a belief that one has a monopoly on Truth, that God is on one's side and that all unbelievers are either agents or dupes of Satan. From this comes all the religious wars and persecutions, regardless of what religion it's done in the name of.

Originally Posted by Edwin30

Islam is a threat.

People who say Islam is a threat, are threats.

1.5 billion Muslims are potential bin Ladens

Anyone who says this, is a potential bin Ladin. Your attitude is EXACTLY the same as his, merely reversing the religions involved. He calls for violence against Christians and Jews. You call for violence against Muslims. He is a religious bigot. So are you. Peas in a pod. Except he has more money.

Originally Posted by Dragontalk

Just about any evangelical denomination falls into the same general category, even though most aren't quite as extreme. You'd have to go outside the U.S. to find Christian groups as extremely rigid as the Wahhabi.

Naw, you're full of it DT. None are anything like Wahhabists. Can you give even a single example?

Exactly the same problem as I have with a Wahhabi Muslim or a member of the Taliban. The common thread here is a belief that one has a monopoly on Truth, that God is on one's side and that all unbelievers are either agents or dupes of Satan. From this comes all the religious wars and persecutions, regardless of what religion it's done in the name of.

Again, full of it. Evangelical Christians don't believe all unbelievers are agents or dupes of Satan. You're just plain making shit up. Again, how about a single credible, verifiable example.


I'll wait.........

Originally Posted by Edwin30

I'm not aware of witches burned at the stake by Christians, lately.

So you admit that Christianity does preach violence and death against witches?

Originally Posted by Edwin30

No other religion other than Islam has the death penalty for apostasy.

Unless it's a witch, I suppose.

The 10 Commandments say Thou Shall Not Murder.

So what? They can easily get around that by not considering the killing of a witch to be murder. A time to kill and all...

Originally Posted by Edwin30

I'm not aware of witches burned at the stake by Christians, lately.

I am aware of 3,000 Americans burned in the World Trade Towers on 9/11 by Muslims

Actually you're not aware of any such thing. Casualty figures for 911 were just under 3000 - and that includes people in the pentagon and those on the planes. Of these approx 372 were foreign nationals ( the single biggest group were from my own country: The UK ) I'd happily grant that 3,000 odd people died and the majority were American, but your statement is factually incorrect.

Originally Posted by Dragontalk

Good grief, I take off for one day and this thread grows by almost 50%.

The bottom line for me is that both Christianity and Islam have teachings that can be interpreted as justifying violence, bigotry, and intolerance. On the other hand, both have teachings that can be interpreted as calling for peace, compassion, and justice. When a follower of one faith is fixated on demonizing the other, I know that that person is responding to the call for violence, bigotry, and intolerance.

A good rule of thumb, then, would be to take anyone who does that -- condemns wholesale a religion of millions of followers -- and keep an eye on that person as a potential terrorist.

This still hasn't been proven and, in fact, I've refuted it every time. I'm still waiting on evidence to support this unfounded claim.

Originally Posted by Edwin30

Violent passages in the Quran are doctrinal.

OTOH, violent passages in the Bible are merely descriptive of violence, usually, tribal, for fixed periods of time, which do not constitute doctrine.

I never thought about looking at it like that before. Good post.

Originally Posted by Moonglow

it is not what Christ said, it is what humans have done in the name of Christ.

Which, of course, is an entirely different thing than what is being talking about.